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Flutter tutorial for beginners

55 points by milap 6y ago

rolling_robot 6y ago
Thought it was about wing aeroelasticity at first.
- ilrwbwrkhv 6y ago
  You were wrong.
Kaladin 6y ago
As someone starting out, would it be beneficial to learn flutter or go the kotlin way?
- blandflakes 6y ago
  What are you starting out on? Kotlin has more web presence, but is pretty much Android-only on the mobile app side. Flutter is theoretically crossplatform with relatively low serverside mindshare.
- milap 6y ago
  I think kotlin is mostly used for android development and is a programming language. Flutter is mostly with cross platform development. It uses dart as programing language which is very easy and fast to learn.
Austin_Conlon 6y ago
From a design standpoint I don't see effort from Flutter to look and feel native to iOS. Hamburger menus and details like the sharing icon might be great on Android, but it's unclear if they're familiar to iOS users. Personally I tried Flutter's demo app associated with their announcement, and basics like scrolling stuttered on the latest iPhone hardware. https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2017-802/?time=1521 https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2017-802/?time=1...
- garyclarke27 6y ago
  I think developers worry far too much about platform native look and feel. Users don’t care, nice design, ease of use, ease of learning with intuitive obvious paths to functionality that solves their needs, is all they care about. Even developers as users don’t care, as proven by the success of VSCode.
  - pal_9000 6y ago
    I want to believe you are right. I have no experience in app development but before committing with Flutter, this is a big concern for me. If you take the app say, Tinder, I believe it has consistent design elements between IOS and Android except for a few pages like settings.
  - millstone 6y ago
    Users care when stuff doesn't work the way they expect, and those expectations are built from experience with other apps. VSCode goes to great lengths to feel native on Mac, though it doesn't reach 100%.
    - pal_9000 6y ago
      For productivity apps I would agree. I personally don't care much for other apps. Good UX doesn't necessarily need native look IMHO
  - ken 6y ago
    Is Flutter what Google uses for their iOS apps? Every time I try to use Drive or Sheets on iOS, I get frustrated that nothing works right, and after 2 minutes I give up and make a mental note to view/edit the file when I get home. Then a month later, I think "It couldn't have been that bad...", and I repeat the process. Intuitive and obvious means behaving like all their other apps I already have. That's how you achieve ease of learning. If they acted right but looked a little off, that might be fine. These apps are the opposite -- they look mostly correct, but act different -- which is the worst of both worlds.
omka 6y ago
Please do the proof-read, it contains typos and code errors which fails flutter app.
mkchoi212 6y ago
Is Flutter better or worse than React Native??

55 points by milap 6y ago

rolling_robot 6y ago

Thought it was about wing aeroelasticity at first.

ilrwbwrkhv 6y ago
You were wrong.

Kaladin 6y ago

As someone starting out, would it be beneficial to learn flutter or go the kotlin way?

blandflakes 6y ago
What are you starting out on? Kotlin has more web presence, but is pretty much Android-only on the mobile app side. Flutter is theoretically crossplatform with relatively low serverside mindshare.
milap 6y ago
I think kotlin is mostly used for android development and is a programming language. Flutter is mostly with cross platform development. It uses dart as programing language which is very easy and fast to learn.

Austin_Conlon 6y ago

From a design standpoint I don't see effort from Flutter to look and feel native to iOS. Hamburger menus and details like the sharing icon might be great on Android, but it's unclear if they're familiar to iOS users. Personally I tried Flutter's demo app associated with their announcement, and basics like scrolling stuttered on the latest iPhone hardware. https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2017-802/?time=1521 https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2017-802/?time=1...

garyclarke27 6y ago
I think developers worry far too much about platform native look and feel. Users don’t care, nice design, ease of use, ease of learning with intuitive obvious paths to functionality that solves their needs, is all they care about. Even developers as users don’t care, as proven by the success of VSCode.
- pal_9000 6y ago
  I want to believe you are right. I have no experience in app development but before committing with Flutter, this is a big concern for me. If you take the app say, Tinder, I believe it has consistent design elements between IOS and Android except for a few pages like settings.
- millstone 6y ago
  Users care when stuff doesn't work the way they expect, and those expectations are built from experience with other apps. VSCode goes to great lengths to feel native on Mac, though it doesn't reach 100%.
  - pal_9000 6y ago
    For productivity apps I would agree. I personally don't care much for other apps. Good UX doesn't necessarily need native look IMHO
- ken 6y ago
  Is Flutter what Google uses for their iOS apps? Every time I try to use Drive or Sheets on iOS, I get frustrated that nothing works right, and after 2 minutes I give up and make a mental note to view/edit the file when I get home. Then a month later, I think "It couldn't have been that bad...", and I repeat the process. Intuitive and obvious means behaving like all their other apps I already have. That's how you achieve ease of learning. If they acted right but looked a little off, that might be fine. These apps are the opposite -- they look mostly correct, but act different -- which is the worst of both worlds.

omka 6y ago

Please do the proof-read, it contains typos and code errors which fails flutter app.

mkchoi212 6y ago

Is Flutter better or worse than React Native??