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I pay for Apple News just to get WSJ. It’s effectively half price.

by iav 6y ago

ztjio 6y ago
I have a similar get with it, but for New Yorker, Architectural Digest and a smattering of random things that I probably wouldn't buy otherwise but am happy to have access to incidentally. Honestly a great value for me. It's too bad so many people are anti paying for quality content, there's quite a lot packed into a single News+ sub. The best stuff is the paid stuff, but, I can't justify subbing to so many individual services.
- dkdk8283 6y ago
  I’m in the camp of people who won’t pay for content - it’s just not worth it to me. Journalism began to die with the repeal of the fairness doctrine.
  - ztjio 6y ago
    I don't know if what I am paying for really is what one would call journalism. Maybe sometimes. But more often it's just better writing, more depth, more thought. An alternative to reading a dense tome but with the same relative degree of satisfaction. Or in other cases it's amazing photography and in depth looks at things nobody else has access to with experts able to explain or describe things, etc. I think this kind of thing is valuable and in a capitalist society the people who take the time to make it deserve to be paid.
- ztjio 6y ago
  Interestingly, right after leaving this discussion behind I went to read the post about the scientist resigning from Google's quantum stuff or whatever. It was a Forbes link which is paywalled of course. It then hit me that Forbes might be part of News+ and yeah, it is, and I have access to the article. I'd like it if this happened more often. I don't like the advertising-only business model. But there has to be some practical middle ground. I'll never subscribe to Forbes directly. It's really too packed full of click bait and inflammatory content to justify it. But this article was an interesting interview and I'm glad I got to read it without resorting to sleazy tactics of undermining a copyright holder's legitimate control of their content. The UX of Apple News has plenty of room for improvement, but, the idea of an Apple Music/Spotify for quality periodical-type content is appealing to me.
enos_feedler 6y ago
Same, but there doesn't seem to be a SSO with WSJ website or app. I have to share a link into the News app in order to view it through the Apple News+ sub.
ksec 6y ago
Isn't it selected WSJ articles? You dont get the full WSJ, or has that changed?
- iav 6y ago
  I believe it’s full access to the recent news articles that are included in WSJ online subscription (No archive, no WSJ pro, no databases), but I don’t know for sure. It’s sort of like Spotify, how do you know you have access to every single album by artist X? All of the major front page articles people talk about are in News+ but without looking up each one in both sources I don’t really know for sure.

I pay for Apple News just to get WSJ. It’s effectively half price.

by iav 6y ago

I pay for Apple News just to get WSJ. It’s effectively half price.

I have a similar get with it, but for New Yorker, Architectural Digest and a smattering of random things that I probably wouldn't buy otherwise but am happy to have access to incidentally. Honestly a great value for me. It's too bad so many people are anti paying for quality content, there's quite a lot packed into a single News+ sub. The best stuff is the paid stuff, but, I can't justify subbing to so many individual services.

dkdk8283 6y ago
I’m in the camp of people who won’t pay for content - it’s just not worth it to me. Journalism began to die with the repeal of the fairness doctrine.
- ztjio 6y ago
  I don't know if what I am paying for really is what one would call journalism. Maybe sometimes. But more often it's just better writing, more depth, more thought. An alternative to reading a dense tome but with the same relative degree of satisfaction. Or in other cases it's amazing photography and in depth looks at things nobody else has access to with experts able to explain or describe things, etc. I think this kind of thing is valuable and in a capitalist society the people who take the time to make it deserve to be paid.
ztjio 6y ago
Interestingly, right after leaving this discussion behind I went to read the post about the scientist resigning from Google's quantum stuff or whatever. It was a Forbes link which is paywalled of course. It then hit me that Forbes might be part of News+ and yeah, it is, and I have access to the article. I'd like it if this happened more often. I don't like the advertising-only business model. But there has to be some practical middle ground. I'll never subscribe to Forbes directly. It's really too packed full of click bait and inflammatory content to justify it. But this article was an interesting interview and I'm glad I got to read it without resorting to sleazy tactics of undermining a copyright holder's legitimate control of their content. The UX of Apple News has plenty of room for improvement, but, the idea of an Apple Music/Spotify for quality periodical-type content is appealing to me.

enos_feedler 6y ago

Same, but there doesn't seem to be a SSO with WSJ website or app. I have to share a link into the News app in order to view it through the Apple News+ sub.

ksec 6y ago

Isn't it selected WSJ articles? You dont get the full WSJ, or has that changed?

iav 6y ago
I believe it’s full access to the recent news articles that are included in WSJ online subscription (No archive, no WSJ pro, no databases), but I don’t know for sure. It’s sort of like Spotify, how do you know you have access to every single album by artist X? All of the major front page articles people talk about are in News+ but without looking up each one in both sources I don’t really know for sure.