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I wonder if Orange County will see a bump in another week or so. A lot of people I know from down there were out at the beach last weekend while LA's beaches we

by sq_ 6y ago

I wonder if Orange County will see a bump in another week or so. A lot of people I know from down there were out at the beach last weekend while LA's beaches were still on lockdown.

jakear 6y ago
I’m from the area (not living there anymore) and I’m also interested. There’s an “OC vs. Gavin” showdown going on, and I’m not sure which side to be on. Based on what I’ve heard from local authorities, the beachgoers maintained proper distance and the orders from Gavin are solely retaliatory.
- wwweston 6y ago
  What's the governor's interest in "retaliation"? Presumably he doesn't have much to gain by upsetting people who want the beaches to be open unless there's a larger constituency he makes happier (in which case that sounds like democracy...)
- sq_ 6y ago
  > the beachgoers maintained proper distance I sure hope this was the case for their sake and that of everyone else in southern CA, but I feel like it'd be really tough to maintain distancing in a public place like the beach (and while going to and from, parking, etc). And that's if you're actively trying to and aware the whole time.
  - in_cahoots 6y ago
    Thankfully most people I see do seem to be trying to keep a 6-foot radius between households, even in the pictures of crowded beaches that make it to the news. Is there any evidence that brief incidental contact can spread the virus in significant amounts? I seem to recall that at one point officials were saying you needed extended (15 minutes or more) close contact to be considered at risk. If that is the case then I don’t see much risk in walking past another person on your way to the beach. And if it’s not the case then we might as well give up on contact tracing, because without massive invasions of privacy we can’t trace down every passerby of an infected individual. Of course the science has been moving fast here, so this could be outdated.

by sq_ 6y ago

I wonder if Orange County will see a bump in another week or so. A lot of people I know from down there were out at the beach last weekend while LA's beaches were still on lockdown.

jakear 6y ago

I’m from the area (not living there anymore) and I’m also interested. There’s an “OC vs. Gavin” showdown going on, and I’m not sure which side to be on. Based on what I’ve heard from local authorities, the beachgoers maintained proper distance and the orders from Gavin are solely retaliatory.

wwweston 6y ago
What's the governor's interest in "retaliation"? Presumably he doesn't have much to gain by upsetting people who want the beaches to be open unless there's a larger constituency he makes happier (in which case that sounds like democracy...)
sq_ 6y ago
> the beachgoers maintained proper distance I sure hope this was the case for their sake and that of everyone else in southern CA, but I feel like it'd be really tough to maintain distancing in a public place like the beach (and while going to and from, parking, etc). And that's if you're actively trying to and aware the whole time.
- in_cahoots 6y ago
  Thankfully most people I see do seem to be trying to keep a 6-foot radius between households, even in the pictures of crowded beaches that make it to the news. Is there any evidence that brief incidental contact can spread the virus in significant amounts? I seem to recall that at one point officials were saying you needed extended (15 minutes or more) close contact to be considered at risk. If that is the case then I don’t see much risk in walking past another person on your way to the beach. And if it’s not the case then we might as well give up on contact tracing, because without massive invasions of privacy we can’t trace down every passerby of an infected individual. Of course the science has been moving fast here, so this could be outdated.