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Are there any resources describing what you lose and gain by installing LineageOS? I'd like to know what will stop working before I try it out...

by pingec 6y ago

boomboomsubban 6y ago
It has been a long time since I used stock Android, but depending on your phone you don't lose much. The base install doesn't have any google apps, but adding them is simple. The biggest loss is in manufacturer unique apps, which can also be seen as a gain considering how companies like Xiaomi use those apps. Besides that, there can be some security gain if set up properly, I think some additional configuration tweaks, and LineageOS often a longer support cycle. It really depends on your phone though, try searching your model +lineageos and you should find out the details.
- climb_stealth 6y ago
  Hah, getting rid of manufacturer specific apps is half the reason for me to install Lineageos in the first place. That as well as much better battery life and more control over what apps are and aren't allowed to access.
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    Sometimes those apps are actual features, I believe some phones that advertise special cameras or audio quality need them. Most of the time it's a beneficial loss though.
    - RealStickman_ 6y ago
      The original Camera app is the only thing I really missed on my OnePlus 3, before I found somebody on XDA distributing the apk.
climb_stealth 6y ago
It probably depends on the device, but in the best case you are not losing anything. Especially as you can install google services, so Google Play and everything around it works. The only apps that stopped working on my Poco F1 are apps that check for modified Android. For example my Australian digital drivers license app doesn't work as it detects the Android environment as non-standard. I believe you can do some root magic to work around it, but I could never be bothered to do so. Interestingly enough the three different banking apps I use all work fine. Have a look at the installation instructions to see how you feel about it [0]. They are usually really good. The devil is in the detail though and you probably have to plan in an afternoon to use google to find workaround for bits that don't work. For example when I was upgrading to the latest Android version I had to install a different bootloader as the previous one wasn't compatible. It took a bit of looking around, but going from the error messages usually brings up the right solutions in various forums. [0] https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/beryllium/install https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/beryllium/install
- inyorgroove 6y ago
  > but in the best case you are not losing anything. This is starting to not be the case, I couldn't get the wide angle camera working on my newer Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite for example. I had to fall back to miui.eu based rom to get it to work.
  - morsch 6y ago
    That's not an officially supported device. The most recent supported model from that line is the Mi 8, afaik.
neurostimulant 6y ago
If your device is officially supported, chance that you won't lose anything. Unofficial builds (made by community members for devices without official support) vary by quality though, and may not support all the hardware available in the phone.
im3w1l 6y ago
While we are on the topic of lineageos, I would appreciate if someone could recommend which device to get for it. When I tried to check earlier, it seemed every device was either Chinese (privacy concern) Google-made (privacy-concern), many years outdated, or only unofficially supported. Is there even a single way to run lineageos without making significant tradeoffs?
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  You are replacing all of the manufacturer's software on the device except for the firmware, and there is basically no device that won't have the same privacy concern with the firmware. I don't view using LineageOS on a OnePlus phone as a tradeoff as I don't have reason to trust someone like Samsung's firmware either, but you may feel differently.
gentleman11 6y ago
Push notifications are the only downside. However, push notifications are bad for being distracting, so it’s not really a downside. You still get normal notifications

Are there any resources describing what you lose and gain by installing LineageOS? I'd like to know what will stop working before I try it out...

by pingec 6y ago

Are there any resources describing what you lose and gain by installing LineageOS? I'd like to know what will stop working before I try it out...

boomboomsubban 6y ago

It has been a long time since I used stock Android, but depending on your phone you don't lose much. The base install doesn't have any google apps, but adding them is simple. The biggest loss is in manufacturer unique apps, which can also be seen as a gain considering how companies like Xiaomi use those apps. Besides that, there can be some security gain if set up properly, I think some additional configuration tweaks, and LineageOS often a longer support cycle. It really depends on your phone though, try searching your model +lineageos and you should find out the details.

climb_stealth 6y ago
Hah, getting rid of manufacturer specific apps is half the reason for me to install Lineageos in the first place. That as well as much better battery life and more control over what apps are and aren't allowed to access.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  Sometimes those apps are actual features, I believe some phones that advertise special cameras or audio quality need them. Most of the time it's a beneficial loss though.
  - RealStickman_ 6y ago
    The original Camera app is the only thing I really missed on my OnePlus 3, before I found somebody on XDA distributing the apk.

climb_stealth 6y ago

It probably depends on the device, but in the best case you are not losing anything. Especially as you can install google services, so Google Play and everything around it works. The only apps that stopped working on my Poco F1 are apps that check for modified Android. For example my Australian digital drivers license app doesn't work as it detects the Android environment as non-standard. I believe you can do some root magic to work around it, but I could never be bothered to do so. Interestingly enough the three different banking apps I use all work fine. Have a look at the installation instructions to see how you feel about it [0]. They are usually really good. The devil is in the detail though and you probably have to plan in an afternoon to use google to find workaround for bits that don't work. For example when I was upgrading to the latest Android version I had to install a different bootloader as the previous one wasn't compatible. It took a bit of looking around, but going from the error messages usually brings up the right solutions in various forums. [0] https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/beryllium/install https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/beryllium/install

inyorgroove 6y ago
> but in the best case you are not losing anything. This is starting to not be the case, I couldn't get the wide angle camera working on my newer Xiaomi Mi 10 Lite for example. I had to fall back to miui.eu based rom to get it to work.
- morsch 6y ago
  That's not an officially supported device. The most recent supported model from that line is the Mi 8, afaik.

neurostimulant 6y ago

If your device is officially supported, chance that you won't lose anything. Unofficial builds (made by community members for devices without official support) vary by quality though, and may not support all the hardware available in the phone.

im3w1l 6y ago

While we are on the topic of lineageos, I would appreciate if someone could recommend which device to get for it. When I tried to check earlier, it seemed every device was either Chinese (privacy concern) Google-made (privacy-concern), many years outdated, or only unofficially supported. Is there even a single way to run lineageos without making significant tradeoffs?

boomboomsubban 6y ago
You are replacing all of the manufacturer's software on the device except for the firmware, and there is basically no device that won't have the same privacy concern with the firmware. I don't view using LineageOS on a OnePlus phone as a tradeoff as I don't have reason to trust someone like Samsung's firmware either, but you may feel differently.

gentleman11 6y ago

Push notifications are the only downside. However, push notifications are bad for being distracting, so it’s not really a downside. You still get normal notifications