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Root and then get flagged by Google's SafetyNet, preventing you from Netflix, banking apps etc? That's a brave but big sacrifice

by amoshi 6y ago

NikolaeVarius 6y ago
Systemless root + root hiding is a thing. I run a custom rom and pass safety check and have access to all my apps including banking.
- AWildC182 6y ago
  This is why people need to start rejecting closed ecosystems. If you own the hardware you can control everything that happens on it including companies trying to force their will upon you
  - m463 6y ago
    more people would reject them if there were alternatives, but the only things on the horizon are pinephone and purism (neither which are really shipping/working)
- Larrikin 6y ago
  Any information on this. I thought rooting was essentially dead
  - chocolatkey 6y ago
    I have an S5 with Magisk. It passes the safetynet checks, and I can choose to specifically hide root status from apps, which has worked well so far.
  - NicolaiS 6y ago
    Google can turn Safetynet validation up or down w/o updating your Droid. Currently it is possible to bypass SafetyNet, but they did turn it up a notch lately, and if they require strong "Key Attention" then neither Magisk nor custom "rootless root" will work (and it will also mean that custom roms Will fail SafetyNet). https://developer.android.com/training/articles/security-key-attestation https://developer.android.com/training/articles/security-key...
curiousgal 6y ago
Not with Magisk.
andrepd 6y ago
>Netflix Hah. If properly paying for films requires you to install quasi-rootkits that spy 24/7 on your personal life, and pirating gives you a high-quality .mkv you can play anywhere you want, I damn fucking well know which one I'll choose. "Brave but big sacrifice"? That's just devaluing those words.
- mekster 6y ago
  You forgot to add that your choice is damaging the innocent content creators.
  - CamperBob2 6y ago
    Maybe those innocent content creators will think twice at contract renewal time, then.
    - t-writescode 6y ago
      Or just ... buy the DVD / other content type legally available?
      - CuriousSkeptic 6y ago
        And then you still need to “root” the DVD-player so you get to skip the commercials and legal threats...
      - andrepd 6y ago
        Which is what I did for a long time, but now I don't even own a disc player...
  - Talanes 6y ago
    The piracy is really incidental. No one who chose privacy over Netflix would suddenly reverse that choice if they couldn't pirate content. Especially given that we are talking about phones, does anyone find watching Netflix on their phone actually ideal?
zimmerfrei 6y ago
Can SafetyNet calls be proxied to another unrooted phone?

Root and then get flagged by Google's SafetyNet, preventing you from Netflix, banking apps etc? That's a brave but big sacrifice

by amoshi 6y ago

Root and then get flagged by Google's SafetyNet, preventing you from Netflix, banking apps etc? That's a brave but big sacrifice

NikolaeVarius 6y ago

Systemless root + root hiding is a thing. I run a custom rom and pass safety check and have access to all my apps including banking.

AWildC182 6y ago
This is why people need to start rejecting closed ecosystems. If you own the hardware you can control everything that happens on it including companies trying to force their will upon you
- m463 6y ago
  more people would reject them if there were alternatives, but the only things on the horizon are pinephone and purism (neither which are really shipping/working)
Larrikin 6y ago
Any information on this. I thought rooting was essentially dead
- chocolatkey 6y ago
  I have an S5 with Magisk. It passes the safetynet checks, and I can choose to specifically hide root status from apps, which has worked well so far.
- NicolaiS 6y ago
  Google can turn Safetynet validation up or down w/o updating your Droid. Currently it is possible to bypass SafetyNet, but they did turn it up a notch lately, and if they require strong "Key Attention" then neither Magisk nor custom "rootless root" will work (and it will also mean that custom roms Will fail SafetyNet). https://developer.android.com/training/articles/security-key-attestation https://developer.android.com/training/articles/security-key...

curiousgal 6y ago

Not with Magisk.

andrepd 6y ago

>Netflix Hah. If properly paying for films requires you to install quasi-rootkits that spy 24/7 on your personal life, and pirating gives you a high-quality .mkv you can play anywhere you want, I damn fucking well know which one I'll choose. "Brave but big sacrifice"? That's just devaluing those words.

mekster 6y ago
You forgot to add that your choice is damaging the innocent content creators.
- CamperBob2 6y ago
  Maybe those innocent content creators will think twice at contract renewal time, then.
  - t-writescode 6y ago
    Or just ... buy the DVD / other content type legally available?
    - CuriousSkeptic 6y ago
      And then you still need to “root” the DVD-player so you get to skip the commercials and legal threats...
    - andrepd 6y ago
      Which is what I did for a long time, but now I don't even own a disc player...
- Talanes 6y ago
  The piracy is really incidental. No one who chose privacy over Netflix would suddenly reverse that choice if they couldn't pirate content. Especially given that we are talking about phones, does anyone find watching Netflix on their phone actually ideal?

zimmerfrei 6y ago

Can SafetyNet calls be proxied to another unrooted phone?