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>when neither have faced this before >The fact that mistakes have been made doesn't mean there's nothing to their field and anyone can do it I was not making
by ralfn 6y ago
>when neither have faced this before
>The fact that mistakes have been made doesn't mean there's nothing to their field and anyone can do it
I was not making that claim. The premise is: should every non epidemiologist keep their mouth shout and trust the domain experts blindly? Don't they have the right in a democracy to question the science and therefor the legitimicy of the suggested policies?
That's a hard sell, when the field of experts themselves have little consensus.
I might be seeing this from a different bubble, over here in the Netherlands. We have had our equivalent of the CDC show and explain their models and policy choices in detail. We got powerpoints and everything.
Now before you make assumptions: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/11/countries-preparedness-pandemics/ https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/11/countries-preparednes... .. the Netherlands ranked 3rd in preparedness.
Yet, it turned into a shitshow. It was already going wrong in Italy, when they claimed their models suggested we have it fully under control if only we wash our hands, and they then let one of the biggest social events happen (think mardi gras). Even though we already had our first cases.
Italy's expert initially said they had it under control. They suggested cultural differences in health and healthcare made it such a bigger problem for China than for them. Then it went to shit in Italy. Then the dutch experts said, after a few cases, they had it completely under control and the reason it went wrong in Italy was cultural differences in health and healthcare. Yeah, racist ignorance.
And all their preparations didn't include supply chain management or the human factor. For example: the relationship (worldwide) between the lockdowns and the available of PPE -vs- the availability of PPE and the spread of the virus. Because none of those things are part of the known models. So they just exclude it entirely.
So, given all of that, yeah, I would like to see their homework in more detail, and we should all put in the intellectual effort, to sort this stuff out.
>Are there no software bugs?
More than any other engineering discipline. So software engineers do actually have more experience debugging collapsing systems build on the wrong assumptions.
>Can just anyone come in and fix those?
Yes, mostly. Its called a pull request.