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A heavy criticism of a lot of these ubuntu-based distros is "ubuntu + a custom PPA", but system76 does actually put in a lot of work into a custom kernel and so

A heavy criticism of a lot of these ubuntu-based distros is "ubuntu + a custom PPA", but system76 does actually put in a lot of work into a custom kernel and some neat UI tweaks that make the OS on their hardware really well. They also have a firmware updater for their systems built into the settings program. The whole experience is a lot more refined than Ubuntu, I believe. It's a great OS for their machines, as well as any laptop with hybrid Intel/Nvidia graphics.

gshulegaard 6y ago
I have been a heavy Ubuntu user for awhile now and currently I have a Dell Precision 55 with Ubuntu 18.04 (came with it) for work and a Lenovo X1 Extreme with PopOS (18.04) that I installed on my personal machine. I think I would install PopOS over vanilla Ubuntu in the future...and I have not had a similar feeling for various alternate distributions like Mint, KDE, or even distros outside of Debian/Ubuntu (e.g. Manjaro). PopOS is the first distribution that I feel like adds a layer of polish and user-friendliness that I find worth it. I have high hopes for future Ubuntu (desktop) release which seem to be making moves in the right general direction, but at the moment PopOS is probably where I am going to hang my hat.
- roseway4 6y ago
  I run PopOS 18.04 on a Lenovo P1 (sister machine to the X1 Extreme). It works flawlessly and is quite beautiful. I've had issues with Thunderbolt docks, but then again, I had the same with a MacBook Pro 2018.
pkaye 6y ago
How does PopOS handle regular bug fixes? Do they rely on the Ubuntu repository or do they apply the same patches and build again?
bibabaloo 6y ago
I searched but couldn't find any info - why do they need a custom kernel? What changes do they make and why don't they upstream them?
- elagost 6y ago
  They do indeed upstream patches. Here's an example: https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/10/8/851 https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/10/8/851

gshulegaard 6y ago

I have been a heavy Ubuntu user for awhile now and currently I have a Dell Precision 55 with Ubuntu 18.04 (came with it) for work and a Lenovo X1 Extreme with PopOS (18.04) that I installed on my personal machine. I think I would install PopOS over vanilla Ubuntu in the future...and I have not had a similar feeling for various alternate distributions like Mint, KDE, or even distros outside of Debian/Ubuntu (e.g. Manjaro). PopOS is the first distribution that I feel like adds a layer of polish and user-friendliness that I find worth it. I have high hopes for future Ubuntu (desktop) release which seem to be making moves in the right general direction, but at the moment PopOS is probably where I am going to hang my hat.

roseway4 6y ago
I run PopOS 18.04 on a Lenovo P1 (sister machine to the X1 Extreme). It works flawlessly and is quite beautiful. I've had issues with Thunderbolt docks, but then again, I had the same with a MacBook Pro 2018.

pkaye 6y ago

How does PopOS handle regular bug fixes? Do they rely on the Ubuntu repository or do they apply the same patches and build again?

bibabaloo 6y ago

I searched but couldn't find any info - why do they need a custom kernel? What changes do they make and why don't they upstream them?

elagost 6y ago
They do indeed upstream patches. Here's an example: https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/10/8/851 https://lkml.org/lkml/2019/10/8/851