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> They said they were saving abused animals from farms, not doing violence to people. I don't think the crime should matter at all. We, as a society, decided l
by deathanatos 7y ago
> They said they were saving abused animals from farms, not doing violence to people.
I don't think the crime should matter at all. We, as a society, decided long ago the justice system is the means by which we mete out punishment. So long as they served whatever punishment, if any, was arrived at by verdict of a fair trial/court of competent jurisdiction, refusing to hire someone who has committed certain crimes is a de facto additional punishment for which that person was never given any opportunity to defend themselves from (and that's morally wrong).
Moreover, how are these people supposed to become productive members of society again if nobody offers them a job? Should they only work "those" jobs, not "my" job? Or be forced to find out if they are competent entrepreneurs? The parent's viewpoint is too extreme for any instance.
(This topic has been written about, and I feel like has even topped HN a few times, though I am struggling to find a good citation at the moment.)
- VLM 7y agoAn opposing view is we don't have fair trials due to the expense of representation and plea bargaining. Possibly op was innocent but too poor and risk adverse to try and fight the harder charge, so op plead for a lesser charge. Possibly op gunned down the farmer and plead to a lesser charge. We don't have fair trials so we'll never know for certain what happened. If we had fair trials, the general public would feel less need to be judge jury and executioner. But we don't, so its just added responsibility for a hiring manager. "We, as a society, decided long ago" Who's this 'we', not me, that's for sure. Its not my failed system.
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- tehjoker 7y agoNot everyone in society agrees with how things are run. Hence, protests and individual moral compasses.