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I think Moore makes some really good points that need to be addressed by environmentalists but taking down the film should not be the first form of action. 3 p

I think Moore makes some really good points that need to be addressed by environmentalists but taking down the film should not be the first form of action. 3 points that are absolutely true. 1) that most green power is backed up by fossil fuels. 2) that solar and wind power hardware needs to be replaced on a regular cycle and that every cycle deals with adding pollution to the environment. and 3) that the real problem is the size of the human population. There are too many people overpowering the planet's available resources. They are uncomfortable issues but they need to be addressed rather than swept under the floor because we don't like them. If we don't address them they will never be fixed.

valuearb 7y ago
What good points? 1)Duh. Green power (except nuclear) cant just scale whenever it is needed, sun is there during the day only, wind is there when wind is there, etc. Why is this even an issue? Over time green power and power storage technologies will get cheaper and flexible, allowing us to use green power as higher and higher percentages of our power needs. 2) Who ever said that green power hardware had some magical resistance to wear and obsolescence? Obsolescence is great because it means newer hardware works better and can have lower environmental impacts. 3) Something that’s been a mainstream topic for over 50 years, so what’s the point? what’s their and your solution? We know that increasing living standards and empowering women leads to lower birth rates, the US and Japan are supposedly already below replacement level birth rates. What else do you propose?
- ttonkytonk 7y ago
  The first two points are under-appreciated and it shouldn't be assumed that the environmental cost is negligible. As for the third point, I don't think the film comes right out and says there are too many people, though it is implied. Specifically the film claims that in the last 200 years the population as well as the consumption rate per person has increased tenfold, for a total increased impact of 100 times.
  - valuearb 7y ago
    Under appreciated or not, why the complaints? What alternatives are there that are economically competitive? It’s ridiculous to complain that technologies that significantly reduce our environmental impact aren’t zero impact. It’s throwing babies out with the bath water levels of cluelessness.

valuearb 7y ago

What good points? 1)Duh. Green power (except nuclear) cant just scale whenever it is needed, sun is there during the day only, wind is there when wind is there, etc. Why is this even an issue? Over time green power and power storage technologies will get cheaper and flexible, allowing us to use green power as higher and higher percentages of our power needs. 2) Who ever said that green power hardware had some magical resistance to wear and obsolescence? Obsolescence is great because it means newer hardware works better and can have lower environmental impacts. 3) Something that’s been a mainstream topic for over 50 years, so what’s the point? what’s their and your solution? We know that increasing living standards and empowering women leads to lower birth rates, the US and Japan are supposedly already below replacement level birth rates. What else do you propose?

ttonkytonk 7y ago
The first two points are under-appreciated and it shouldn't be assumed that the environmental cost is negligible. As for the third point, I don't think the film comes right out and says there are too many people, though it is implied. Specifically the film claims that in the last 200 years the population as well as the consumption rate per person has increased tenfold, for a total increased impact of 100 times.
- valuearb 7y ago
  Under appreciated or not, why the complaints? What alternatives are there that are economically competitive? It’s ridiculous to complain that technologies that significantly reduce our environmental impact aren’t zero impact. It’s throwing babies out with the bath water levels of cluelessness.