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> What is there to go outside for in your average US city? The mall? Even those were already half-dead before COVID-19? Really? Bars, Clubs, restaurants, conce

> What is there to go outside for in your average US city? The mall? Even those were already half-dead before COVID-19? Really? Bars, Clubs, restaurants, concerts, museums, art gallery's, and gyms off the top of my head. Street fairs, parties, festivals, conventions, sporting events, school concerts and events if you count less commercially driven events. That's only things that exist primarily in large cities, national parks, city parks, hiking trails, fishing, hunting, and boating outside of the city. There are literally hundreds of other things to go out for. If someone choose to stay inside that's clearly because they choose to ignore the large amount of things to do or they can't afford to in money/time terms.

gridlockd 6y ago
> Bars, Clubs, restaurants, concerts, museums, art gallery's, and gyms off the top of my head. Yes these things exist, sort of, at least in some places. Besides restaurants, none of these are given much attention by the average American consumer. > That's only things that exist primarily in large cities, national parks, city parks, hiking trails, fishing, hunting, and boating outside of the city. The point I am making is that the cities in the US are largely so uninteresting that you might as well stay inside and take your business there.
- jaegerpicker 6y ago
  Bars are packed, concerts sell out, museums are busy, and plenty of gyms do a large healthy business just prior to the CoronaVirus outbreak. In what world do you live that American consumer's didn't go to these places? Here on the East coast (Northeast for sure) that is NOT true at all. I doubt it's true anywhere. I understood your point I just think it's poorly made and not at all backed by reality.
  - gridlockd 6y ago
    I do not know what to tell you. Just compare American and European cities. American cities are depressing. Of course existing bars and gyms have visitors, otherwise they would be out of business. Yet, the average American is overweight to obese and certainly not a bar hopper.

gridlockd 6y ago

> Bars, Clubs, restaurants, concerts, museums, art gallery's, and gyms off the top of my head. Yes these things exist, sort of, at least in some places. Besides restaurants, none of these are given much attention by the average American consumer. > That's only things that exist primarily in large cities, national parks, city parks, hiking trails, fishing, hunting, and boating outside of the city. The point I am making is that the cities in the US are largely so uninteresting that you might as well stay inside and take your business there.

jaegerpicker 6y ago
Bars are packed, concerts sell out, museums are busy, and plenty of gyms do a large healthy business just prior to the CoronaVirus outbreak. In what world do you live that American consumer's didn't go to these places? Here on the East coast (Northeast for sure) that is NOT true at all. I doubt it's true anywhere. I understood your point I just think it's poorly made and not at all backed by reality.
- gridlockd 6y ago
  I do not know what to tell you. Just compare American and European cities. American cities are depressing. Of course existing bars and gyms have visitors, otherwise they would be out of business. Yet, the average American is overweight to obese and certainly not a bar hopper.