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Thanks for the suggestion. I've been a long time user of a Lenovo X1 first generation, and this time I would like to see if perhaps I can't break away from Len

Thanks for the suggestion. I've been a long time user of a Lenovo X1 first generation, and this time I would like to see if perhaps I can't break away from Lenovo... My main issue with Lenovo is their keyboards and pricing. The keyboard on the X1 (which is the same as in the current generations) is too brittle, and I had to replace three of those in the course of 5 years... Also I swapped 2 coolers... I know (hope?) that the T-line is more sturdy. That being said, unfortunately the T480 doesn't have an SATA port, which is a deal breaker for me, as I value above all else being able to quickly swap my SSD from one laptop to another. (When the X1 I had finally gave up it's second cooler, switching to an same generation Fujitsu was a simple matter of going to the store, buying a refurbished laptop, and swapping the SSD.)

redmaple 6y ago
> unfortunately the T480 doesn't have an SATA port uh, I think it does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmBPXULVXnQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmBPXULVXnQ
rotterdamdev 6y ago
If data port is necessary, get an older TP with a sata port. Funny you mentioning the keyboard issues, I never had any issues. T420, x230, x260, t450. All second hand. Just don't buy new I guess?
detaro 6y ago
> unfortunately the T480 doesn't have an SATA port, I'm fairly certain it does.
- ciprian_craciun 6y ago
  OK, digging for the Lenovo ThinkPad T480 data sheet (which is not linked from their main website, at least in a place easily found), I gathered: * their main product page -- https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-series/ThinkPad-T480/p/22TP2TT4800 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-ser... -- does not list anything about SATA; * (BTW, the support page linked from the main product page, is pointless and doesn't provide any data sheets; and the downloads page, has countless files, none of which contains "data" or "sheet" or "spec" in their name;) * the user manual -- https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t480_ug_en.pdf https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t480_ug_en.pd... -- says that SATA is "available on some models", not specifying which; * the maintenance manual -- https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t480_hmm_en.pdf https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t480_hmm_en.p... -- doesn't even list the word SATA (or NVMe), however it does seem to present in the "Internal Storage" section something which resembles a HDD tray; * the "platform specifications" (found via Google) -- https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T480/ThinkPad_T480_Spec.PDF https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T... -- says <<system has one HDD slot or one M.2 2280 slot exclusively for storage>> and <<installed M.2 SSD is PCIe 3.0 x 4 but run at PCIe 3.0 x 2 due to M.2 SSD adapter limitation>>, which I interpret as: perhaps you can put either an M.2 or a SATA drive, however even with NVMe, you're still running at SATA speeds; So all in all I'm a little bit disappointed about how "transparent" Lenovo is... Can someone please confirm if the SATA port is available regardless of how the laptop was bought? (I.e. even if initially bought with a NVMe SSD?)

redmaple 6y ago

> unfortunately the T480 doesn't have an SATA port uh, I think it does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmBPXULVXnQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmBPXULVXnQ

rotterdamdev 6y ago

If data port is necessary, get an older TP with a sata port. Funny you mentioning the keyboard issues, I never had any issues. T420, x230, x260, t450. All second hand. Just don't buy new I guess?

detaro 6y ago

> unfortunately the T480 doesn't have an SATA port, I'm fairly certain it does.

ciprian_craciun 6y ago
OK, digging for the Lenovo ThinkPad T480 data sheet (which is not linked from their main website, at least in a place easily found), I gathered: * their main product page -- https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-series/ThinkPad-T480/p/22TP2TT4800 https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-ser... -- does not list anything about SATA; * (BTW, the support page linked from the main product page, is pointless and doesn't provide any data sheets; and the downloads page, has countless files, none of which contains "data" or "sheet" or "spec" in their name;) * the user manual -- https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t480_ug_en.pdf https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t480_ug_en.pd... -- says that SATA is "available on some models", not specifying which; * the maintenance manual -- https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t480_hmm_en.pdf https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/t480_hmm_en.p... -- doesn't even list the word SATA (or NVMe), however it does seem to present in the "Internal Storage" section something which resembles a HDD tray; * the "platform specifications" (found via Google) -- https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T480/ThinkPad_T480_Spec.PDF https://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_T... -- says <<system has one HDD slot or one M.2 2280 slot exclusively for storage>> and <<installed M.2 SSD is PCIe 3.0 x 4 but run at PCIe 3.0 x 2 due to M.2 SSD adapter limitation>>, which I interpret as: perhaps you can put either an M.2 or a SATA drive, however even with NVMe, you're still running at SATA speeds; So all in all I'm a little bit disappointed about how "transparent" Lenovo is... Can someone please confirm if the SATA port is available regardless of how the laptop was bought? (I.e. even if initially bought with a NVMe SSD?)