so seems, like I'm not the only one finding the Zoom experience lacking: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23012749 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2301

so seems, like I'm not the only one finding the Zoom experience lacking: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23012749 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23012749 And yeah, it's quite funny, how noone proposting has a measured opinion, it's always: Zoom's by far the best... (and being in education, it seems like around 50% of my course participants are joining Zoom on mobile, because it won't work on their computer...) As for alternatives: all are sh* in one way or another (try Jitsi with Chrome please, then it works great!, I know of a local LUG which outright bans non-Blink on their instance....). I use it now, because admininstration says it's fine (and discord is equally horrible from a privacy standpoint)