> The mistake I think many do when they think "no code" is that they think that they can eliminate the developer Exactly. No-where did I mention you do not nee

> The mistake I think many do when they think "no code" is that they think that they can eliminate the developer Exactly. No-where did I mention you do not need (good) devs for this. They are just not writing code (in the traditional way). No/lowcode is not saying the same as end-user development, although it gets mixes up quite a bit (also by the companies selling the tools), it is not what I mean when when working with such tools. And in my experience at least, you can push back closer to the 80% than the 100%, so sure, you don't get that last 20% (or part of it) but maybe I can convince the client they don't need it. And if they do, I would choose (maybe) another tool for the job like I said.