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I'm a loyal user of hangouts.

by tehlike 7y ago

guilamu 7y ago
You are "loyal" to an app?!
- okt 7y ago
  Why can't be one loyal to an app?
  - tsukurimashou 7y ago
    having a concept of "loyalty" for apps and corporations is beyond me
    - tartrate 7y ago
      Loyal user is a well-recognised term in marketing among other areas meaning someone who keeps using the product over a long period of time. It's not more complicated than that.
      - TeMPOraL 7y ago
        Yes, but "loyal user" is in the same box as "target audience" and all the other terms in the marketing vernacular. This is a language of people taking advantage of others, talking about their victims. It makes little sense to use such language voluntarily on yourself.
        cameronbrown 7y ago
        Marketing speak is mostly drivel to me, but you'll have a hard time convincing most people that the language is somehow oppressive.
        TeMPOraL 7y ago
        It's not oppressive, it's objectifying; it treats you as a resource to be exploited with little to no consideration to your well-being. No reason to voluntarily use it on yourself.
        cameronbrown 7y ago
        Well this is just the nature of operating a business at scale. Even little corner shops don't recognise customers on an individual basis. > It treats you as a resource to be exploited with little to no consideration to your well-being There are companies which I feel loyal to (Valve/Steam, for example) because they treat their customers well. I believe they deserve my money because they're a good company so I will give them the benefit of the doubt if they do something wrong. Ultimately we want to reward good behaviour in the market, no?
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  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    What has the app ever done to deserve your loyalty?
    - pgeorgi 7y ago
      You might be taking "loyalty" a bit too literal, but that question seems odd on a forum that's broadly aligned with a community that features the editor wars (emacs, vi!), operating system wars (BSD, Linux, macos!) and countless other ways of attaching one's identity to pieces of software.
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I'm a loyal user of hangouts.

guilamu 7y ago

You are "loyal" to an app?!

okt 7y ago
Why can't be one loyal to an app?
- tsukurimashou 7y ago
  having a concept of "loyalty" for apps and corporations is beyond me
  - tartrate 7y ago
    Loyal user is a well-recognised term in marketing among other areas meaning someone who keeps using the product over a long period of time. It's not more complicated than that.
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      Yes, but "loyal user" is in the same box as "target audience" and all the other terms in the marketing vernacular. This is a language of people taking advantage of others, talking about their victims. It makes little sense to use such language voluntarily on yourself.
      - cameronbrown 7y ago
        Marketing speak is mostly drivel to me, but you'll have a hard time convincing most people that the language is somehow oppressive.
        TeMPOraL 7y ago
        It's not oppressive, it's objectifying; it treats you as a resource to be exploited with little to no consideration to your well-being. No reason to voluntarily use it on yourself.
        cameronbrown 7y ago
        Well this is just the nature of operating a business at scale. Even little corner shops don't recognise customers on an individual basis. > It treats you as a resource to be exploited with little to no consideration to your well-being There are companies which I feel loyal to (Valve/Steam, for example) because they treat their customers well. I believe they deserve my money because they're a good company so I will give them the benefit of the doubt if they do something wrong. Ultimately we want to reward good behaviour in the market, no?
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- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  What has the app ever done to deserve your loyalty?
  - pgeorgi 7y ago
    You might be taking "loyalty" a bit too literal, but that question seems odd on a forum that's broadly aligned with a community that features the editor wars (emacs, vi!), operating system wars (BSD, Linux, macos!) and countless other ways of attaching one's identity to pieces of software.

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