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Except the President doesn't run New York state, the governor does.

TAForObvReasons 7y ago
It's worth reading the article. The subtitle adds a bit of necessary context: > The Silicon Valley engineer, who had no background in medical supplies but was recommended by the White House, never delivered the ventilators. The article has a direct quote: > “The guy was recommended to us by the White House coronavirus task force because they were doing business with him as well,” said the New York state official. I don't think the state government expected that the White House would recommend a scammer.
- dantheman 7y ago
  Really, the state government that thinks these people are criminals and frauds? Remember NYC has known trump and his ilk for a long time.
  - bathtub365 7y ago
    Why are you letting the federal government off the hook and blaming the victim?
    - dantheman 7y ago
      Holding people responsible for their decisions isn't blaming the victim. This is their job. They failed at it. NY keeps making bad decisions and then blaming the federal government -- they take credit but push off blame/responsibility. I'm not happy with how my government is handling this.
- edoceo 7y ago
  What business was the WH doing with this scammer? Stealing from NY?
ceejayoz 7y ago
The article states the White House recommended the vendor to New York.
- dantheman 7y ago
  With New York's view on the white house and their capabilities - not doing due diligence is on them.
  - bathtub365 7y ago
    And with the position of authority the federal government is in, giving poor recommendations is on them. Responsibility goes both ways.
    - dantheman 7y ago
      Sure - we know the whitehouse is incompetent - we've known that since day one.
- tenpies 7y ago
  I get that as chief executive, the president is ultimately responsible for everything, but is this literally where we're dumping the blame? The President failed to make sure the task force member who recommended the vendor had done his diligence and the state government was just 100% blindly trusting of the very same White House they claim to hate at every step of the way, therefore it's Trump's fault? What ever happened to trust but verify? I just don't understand why type of micro-manager would be needed for this to not be his fault then. It wouldn't be a human at that point, you'd need some sort of AI that manages the smallest of minutia of every aspect of government.
  - darkerside 7y ago
    > claim to hate Please don't fall prey to the emo journalism of the day. And don't rachet it up even farther. For the most part, these are professionals doing their jobs. There's been a lot more failure than typical, on both sides, in the face of an historical pandemic. But let's not demonize either side here, or assume that others do. For the record, Trump does run the executive branch, and if one of its people pushed this through, it reflects horribly on his leadership and whoever eventually gets thrown under the bus. But, this article doesn't bring much to the table in terms of sources. Doesn't make sense to point fingers until someone involved in the purchase does, without anonymity.

It's worth reading the article. The subtitle adds a bit of necessary context: > The Silicon Valley engineer, who had no background in medical supplies but was recommended by the White House, never delivered the ventilators. The article has a direct quote: > “The guy was recommended to us by the White House coronavirus task force because they were doing business with him as well,” said the New York state official. I don't think the state government expected that the White House would recommend a scammer.

dantheman 7y ago
Really, the state government that thinks these people are criminals and frauds? Remember NYC has known trump and his ilk for a long time.
- bathtub365 7y ago
  Why are you letting the federal government off the hook and blaming the victim?
  - dantheman 7y ago
    Holding people responsible for their decisions isn't blaming the victim. This is their job. They failed at it. NY keeps making bad decisions and then blaming the federal government -- they take credit but push off blame/responsibility. I'm not happy with how my government is handling this.
edoceo 7y ago
What business was the WH doing with this scammer? Stealing from NY?

ceejayoz 7y ago

The article states the White House recommended the vendor to New York.

dantheman 7y ago
With New York's view on the white house and their capabilities - not doing due diligence is on them.
- bathtub365 7y ago
  And with the position of authority the federal government is in, giving poor recommendations is on them. Responsibility goes both ways.
  - dantheman 7y ago
    Sure - we know the whitehouse is incompetent - we've known that since day one.
tenpies 7y ago
I get that as chief executive, the president is ultimately responsible for everything, but is this literally where we're dumping the blame? The President failed to make sure the task force member who recommended the vendor had done his diligence and the state government was just 100% blindly trusting of the very same White House they claim to hate at every step of the way, therefore it's Trump's fault? What ever happened to trust but verify? I just don't understand why type of micro-manager would be needed for this to not be his fault then. It wouldn't be a human at that point, you'd need some sort of AI that manages the smallest of minutia of every aspect of government.
- darkerside 7y ago
  > claim to hate Please don't fall prey to the emo journalism of the day. And don't rachet it up even farther. For the most part, these are professionals doing their jobs. There's been a lot more failure than typical, on both sides, in the face of an historical pandemic. But let's not demonize either side here, or assume that others do. For the record, Trump does run the executive branch, and if one of its people pushed this through, it reflects horribly on his leadership and whoever eventually gets thrown under the bus. But, this article doesn't bring much to the table in terms of sources. Doesn't make sense to point fingers until someone involved in the purchase does, without anonymity.