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To be clear, he tried to destroy an innocent man/hero's life because said guy dared criticize his attempt to take the glory for himself. He then doubled and tri

To be clear, he tried to destroy an innocent man/hero's life because said guy dared criticize his attempt to take the glory for himself. He then doubled and tripled down on it and hired a fraudulent private investigator to prove it (he did not). There are those of us that care very much and find actions like that horrific, but we're in the silent minority apparently. It struck me as the actions of a sociopath. Why do you feel like that is appropriate behavior?

Melting_Harps 6y ago
> Why do you feel like that is appropriate behavior? Honestly, its a means to an end. He has beceome the defacto person for the EV movement, Mars colonization, and to a degree AI (for good or for bad). many have tried before him, but none had the savvyness or presence that he has. I worked for Kimabl and approached him several times while at work and I can tell you right now, I would never try that with Elon. My friend asked if I saw Elon at either Tesla or SpaceX when I went to my interviews, I told him if he was I'd walk other way. Definitely say thank you in passing, but that's about it. He's not someone I'd bother, I like what he does and how it effects all the movements I care about, that's how I justify it. The polemics from his twitter antics can be entertaining at times, and that's engaging a broader audience so I encourage it as well. His stance on COVID was misinformed to say the least, but he isn't an epidemiologist so I'm not going to listen to him on that. When i want to hear about Starship SN4 I'm all ears.
- matthewbauer 6y ago
  He’s not an epidemiologist. He’s not an engineer. He’s a businessman. And by pissing so many people off, he’s definitely not being a good businessman.
  - Melting_Harps 6y ago
    > He’s not an epidemiologist. He’s not an engineer. He’s a businessman. And by pissing so many people off, he’s definitely not being a good businessman. Sure. But you're pointing your ire at the wrong person, I'm not in the 'Cult of Elon' and here to defend his antics; I'm responding to someone asking why I accept it for what it is, and how it benefits the things I care about. I forgot to mention Starlink, too. But, last I checked he is actually the Chief Engineer of SpaceX and Starship [1]. I don't entirely disagree with your assessment, but as I said, its a means to an end. And the truth is he actually can piss off who ever he wants, and still be a good business man so long as he gets the Best Talent in the World lining up work for him (for little money) and people falling over themselves to give him funding and politicians letting him prototype stuff underground in one of the most seismically active places in N. America (SoCal/San Andreas Fault line) because he 'gets things done.' 1: https://www.spacex.com/news/2019/09/30/starship-update https://www.spacex.com/news/2019/09/30/starship-update
    - Melting_Harps 6y ago
      And because I can't edit my first post: Cybertruck is being made in Texas: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tesla-will-build-its-new-cybertruck-in-texas-elon-musk-says/ar-BB13awud https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tesla-will-build-i... Interesting choice, there were rumors at the SpaceX launch facility in Boca Chica that he was thinking of Texas as a new giga factory. But also, Texas has some of the cheapest gas in all of the US, I hadn't seen 99 cent gas since 1999 and yet on my trip there I saw it multiple times in various cities in Texas and there were so many big lifted trucks going 100 MPH everywhere.
  - kiba 6y ago
    He's definitely an engineer. He's going into his companies' factor floor, making engineering decisions day in and day out. Good or bad, the bucks stopped with him.

Melting_Harps 6y ago

> Why do you feel like that is appropriate behavior? Honestly, its a means to an end. He has beceome the defacto person for the EV movement, Mars colonization, and to a degree AI (for good or for bad). many have tried before him, but none had the savvyness or presence that he has. I worked for Kimabl and approached him several times while at work and I can tell you right now, I would never try that with Elon. My friend asked if I saw Elon at either Tesla or SpaceX when I went to my interviews, I told him if he was I'd walk other way. Definitely say thank you in passing, but that's about it. He's not someone I'd bother, I like what he does and how it effects all the movements I care about, that's how I justify it. The polemics from his twitter antics can be entertaining at times, and that's engaging a broader audience so I encourage it as well. His stance on COVID was misinformed to say the least, but he isn't an epidemiologist so I'm not going to listen to him on that. When i want to hear about Starship SN4 I'm all ears.

matthewbauer 6y ago
He’s not an epidemiologist. He’s not an engineer. He’s a businessman. And by pissing so many people off, he’s definitely not being a good businessman.
- Melting_Harps 6y ago
  > He’s not an epidemiologist. He’s not an engineer. He’s a businessman. And by pissing so many people off, he’s definitely not being a good businessman. Sure. But you're pointing your ire at the wrong person, I'm not in the 'Cult of Elon' and here to defend his antics; I'm responding to someone asking why I accept it for what it is, and how it benefits the things I care about. I forgot to mention Starlink, too. But, last I checked he is actually the Chief Engineer of SpaceX and Starship [1]. I don't entirely disagree with your assessment, but as I said, its a means to an end. And the truth is he actually can piss off who ever he wants, and still be a good business man so long as he gets the Best Talent in the World lining up work for him (for little money) and people falling over themselves to give him funding and politicians letting him prototype stuff underground in one of the most seismically active places in N. America (SoCal/San Andreas Fault line) because he 'gets things done.' 1: https://www.spacex.com/news/2019/09/30/starship-update https://www.spacex.com/news/2019/09/30/starship-update
  - Melting_Harps 6y ago
    And because I can't edit my first post: Cybertruck is being made in Texas: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tesla-will-build-its-new-cybertruck-in-texas-elon-musk-says/ar-BB13awud https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/tesla-will-build-i... Interesting choice, there were rumors at the SpaceX launch facility in Boca Chica that he was thinking of Texas as a new giga factory. But also, Texas has some of the cheapest gas in all of the US, I hadn't seen 99 cent gas since 1999 and yet on my trip there I saw it multiple times in various cities in Texas and there were so many big lifted trucks going 100 MPH everywhere.
- kiba 6y ago
  He's definitely an engineer. He's going into his companies' factor floor, making engineering decisions day in and day out. Good or bad, the bucks stopped with him.