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A sweary, ranty YouTuber who's become an isolation cooking sensation
- throw7 6y agoI can't make it through these millennial-style edit every second and imma meme-lord videos. I suppose there is pearls of wisdom hidden somewhere in there (I mean front page of hacker news?). Sadly, Joshua Weinstein has also evolved into this style.
- baby 6y agoA bit tame compared to our “les tutos”. It’s hilarious I recommend watching :) https://youtu.be/belUlgnhu9M https://youtu.be/belUlgnhu9M
- nate_meurer 6y agoOh my god. The fuck did I just watch?
- jiggawatts 6y agoI don't know either, but it's lodged itself in my brain.
- jotm 6y agoThat does make the Aussie look tame indeed :D
- wodny 6y agoIt requires a tektonik finish on top. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqYhuwu614Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqYhuwu614Y Yelle - A Cause Des Garcons
- kwhitefoot 6y agoThank you, made me laugh out loud!
- louwrentius 6y agoThank you that was insane. In a good way.
- friendlybus 6y agoAussie here, the self aware piss take is a great cultural tool that we do well (tim minchin as the highest form), but it's got to be used well. Too many self aware jokes in nat's videos are played for gags and used to suck all the tension out of the video. Using that tool to punctuate boring moments just highlights how boring it is to trying and find the tap whilst looking at the camera or dump a load of ingredients into a bowl. That tool is best used when bringing the elite and pretentious (self-styled picasso chef) down to the ground floor with love and highlighting a valuable revelation. This stuff could be really good with a bit more quality and a bit less gratuity.
- vinkelhake 6y agoFor something less ranty I recommend Kenji López-Alt's channel. He puts a gopro on his head and shows everything that goes into making a dish. The videos have so many useful things and he knows what he's talking about. He's done some of those POV-style videos before, but started to really lean into it about a month ago. I think his channel has grown by ~150K subs in the last month. https://www.youtube.com/user/kenjialt https://www.youtube.com/user/kenjialt
- starpilot 6y agoThe guy's amazing. MIT grad and worked at Cook's Illustrated. Very analytical approach to cooking.
- Arainach 6y agoKenji is wonderful. The Food Lab (https://www.amazon.com/Food-Lab-Cooking-Through-Science/dp/0393081087 https://www.amazon.com/Food-Lab-Cooking-Through-Science/dp/0...) is still the first cookbook I turn to when investigating a recipe I haven't made before. His blog on Serious Eats has been amazing through the years - his advice on sous vide in particular is as good as anyone I've found, but all of his advice is solid. If you're ever in the Bay Area, his Wursthall restaraunt is well worth a visit. I don't live there but I make it a point to visit at least once a year when travelling.
- jwoodruff31 6y agoI just received a copy of The Food Lab. Any recommendations on some recipes to try first. I've been loving the introduction and Kenji's very scientific approach to cooking. I've always been interested in messing around in the kitchen and hate when chefs in instructional pieces refer to "love" as that extra ingredient. In line with that, Kenji shuts down the notion of New York bagels being better because of the water.
- davezatch 6y agoLove this book too! Not crazy complex but his pancake recipe crushes any other I’ve tried :)
- usaphp 6y agoHis like/dislike ratio on each video is absolutely incredible. The latest video has over 5000 likes and just 4 dislikes! I skeptically watched his linked video in the article and it’s really funny
- blargmaster33 6y agoCommie soyboy detected
- vsnf 6y agoFor an American take of exactly the same kind of video, I recommend You Suck At Cooking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsB57FtaxXQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsB57FtaxXQ
- dec0dedab0de 6y agoI love YSAC, but he's not really ranty. Plus I think he's Canadian.
- herdodoodo 6y agohis videos are a great way to test how much cringe you can handle in a sitting
- benrbray 6y agoI feel the same way about Joshua Weissman. He has fantastic recipes but I could really do without all the weird faces and the mistakes that he should've just edited out.
- kylepdm 6y agoI can't do the close face action in his cupboard but I really do appreciate folks who don't edit out their mistakes. It really helps knowing that it's ok to mistakes when you're learning to cook, that there's a lot of leeway with cooking, and getting better is just a process of doing it again and again.
- hnick 6y agoYeah I agree about the mistakes. A few YouTubers do it and it really helps, along with the casual "do this or that doesn't matter, whatever you want" to make it all a bit less scary and stressful. Adam Ragusea is pretty good at that too I think. And he also does the occasional more scientific video where he looks into stuff like whether teflon or olive over high heat is actually dangerous, which I find very interesting.
- ballsass123 6y agogo try shooting your favorite politician - that will relieve some stress
- benrbray 6y agoI should clarify: I don't mean cooking mistakes! I really like when e.g. Binging with Babish admits he accidentally forgot the salt. I mean mistakes where he drops something, forgets to plug in his stand mixer, fumbles with his words, etc.. An example is here [1] where he accidentally spits in the camera. Just do another take!! [1]: https://youtu.be/9BPofD8uuzQ?t=29 https://youtu.be/9BPofD8uuzQ?t=29 (timestamp 0:29)
- crispyambulance 6y agoHe's absolutely right about the Bolognese though! https://youtu.be/Sw_Ze9zIafM https://youtu.be/Sw_Ze9zIafM This would actually "pass" on the Italia Squisita channel where Italian chefs mercilessly lampoon Youtube chef's screwing up Italian classic recipes (https://youtu.be/jQkc_1pQd3g https://youtu.be/jQkc_1pQd3g)
- overcast 6y agoHis recipes may be correct, but this is unwatchable. The constant cuts every three words for the ADD generation is beyond irritating.
- mmariani 6y agoThen watch the follow up video [0] to ItaliaSquisita critique and you’ll be safe. Not to mention your Ragù is going to be orders of magnitude better. [0] https://youtu.be/oomJC1sWyfs https://youtu.be/oomJC1sWyfs
- jotm 6y agoYeah, it's an acquired taste. Some of the earlier successful YouTubers popularized the style, it's funny if you're used to it and iirc allows for an easier time filming/editing (if you make lots of mistakes I guess). Many, if not most, K-Pop videos are in a similar style, some are so aggressive they may very well cause epilepsy. Definitely give me a headache anytime I try to watch them hah
- roel_v 6y agoHow is someone with 128k subs a 'sensation'? I mean, he might become one now that he's got the Guardian plugging him, but still...
- paranoidrobot 6y agoReddit frontpage several times, and I'm sure other places too.
- grecy 6y agoI've already been sent links to him twice, and reddit from page, etc. To be honest, I'm kind of shocked he only has 128k subs... surely this article will help, but I would have thought he'd be pushing a million by now.
- PudgePacket 6y ago650k subscribers on FB too, with nearly 10m views on some of his facebook videos. That's where it's really taken off.
- Jommi 6y agoSubscribers aren't really a merit on YT anymore. It's all about AVG views on high cadence content.
- hi5eyes 6y agoexactly viewers and engagement are the true metric of any social media/youtube. anyone can buy subs/followers
- dntbnmpls 6y agoWhat I admire the most about traditional media is how quickly they can switch agendas and what short memories they have. It's tabula rasa after every propaganda campaign. The entire traditional media ( including theguardian ) has been attacking youtube relentlessly the past few years and when youtube finally "submits" and does the bidding of the traditional media's bosses, it's all youtube recommendations now. It went from youtube is destroying your children, destroying the world, youtube is evil to "you should check out X youtuber", "the best videos on youtube", etc. I guess there is a fine line between love and hate.
- sdenton4 6y ago...or maybe, just maybe, the media - like the internet - isn't a single entity, and in fact contains a multitudes of viewpoints, styles, and opinions...
- dntbnmpls 6y ago> isn't a single entity Maybe, but it mostly behaves as one hivemind. > and in fact contains a multitudes of viewpoints, styles, and opinions... That's the point, it doesn't. TheGuardian along with the rest of the traditional media spouted the same propaganda for a while. It's easy to spot if you pay attention.
- duxup 6y ago>Maybe, but it mostly behaves as one hivemind. I think that is more of a perception thing. At any one time you can find lots of "the media" covering lots of topics.
- zrobotics 6y ago>>Maybe, but it mostly behaves as one hivemind. <s>Wait, are we talking about the internet?</s> On a more serious note, there isn't a huge difference. Sure, the media may seem to all be pushing one story/agenda, but the same things happen on the internet as well. Much as we like to think we are individualist free thinkers, humans are very much a social animal. It doesn't need to be anything nefarious, The Guardian was covering the same things everyone else was from the same angle for nearly-identical reasons to the redditors who repost nearly identical meme formats. A few months back, everyone was posting "stinks" memes because that's what got upvotes. News outlets hopped on the 'YouTube will corrupt your kids' bandwagon because that is what was getting clicks and ad impressions. It's not that complicated of a phenomenon; there certainly doesn't need to be a spooky man behind the curtain to explain it. Even Hacker News is subject to this, where all of a sudden everyone is deleting their Gmail accounts. There are just broad trends in society, and it shouldn't be surprising that many people/organizations follow them.
- paypalcust83 6y agoLouis Rossmann, AvE, or Joey Santore has a cooking show? (Slow news day reporting WFH, I guess.)
- bschwindHN 6y agoI thought it was going to be PaymoneyWubby
- paranoidrobot 6y ago> AvE ... has a cooking show? Well, a series, but yes. Starts from here[0] where he makes the steel griddle for his BBQ. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNAr7adtpdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNAr7adtpdY e: Forgot HN doesn't do markdown.
- peteretep 6y agoI don’t get it, he’s just a typical Australian?
- parallel 6y agoThis is not true, please don't propagate stereotypes on a public forum even if it is an attempt to brag about Australian culture.
- paranoidrobot 6y agoDepends on how you define 'Typical Australian'. He's certainly playing up a character to a degree, but it's not too far off-base for a lot of folks I know who play up this kind of character when they're having a bit of fun anyway. For the cooking show this guy's doing it's actually informative, gives good advice, and keeps it pretty easy to follow. Very useful for folks who genuinely find it scary to cook anything that didn't come out of a packet or had more than four steps.
- BigJono 6y agoAs a seasoned bogan, I reckon he's a bit over the top. I think if he cranked it down about 20% he'd sound more natural. There's a few 'fuck's in his videos that don't naturally fit into the sentence.
- yesenadam 6y agoMy favourite was the "mm! Get fucked." when the curry tasted good at the end. Don't know if people say that, but I knew what he meant. Although it's not too far removed from (the very non-Australian) Stephen Fry saying "Fuck off!" responding to a Derren Brown card trick at about 1:50. Both are impressed by something. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI5-NDiY7IM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI5-NDiY7IM
- minikomi 6y agoCalm your farm there sunshine.
- remarkEon 6y agoSo I'm not too familiar with Australian humor or comedians, but this is still pretty funny to me (am American). Humor aside, this is actually a pretty decent PSA. When this all started I do remember how the frozen food aisle looked: it was completely emptied out and I remember thinking that cooking these kinds of things on your own is, like this guy says, a) cheaper and b) better for your health.
- kylek 6y agoOrdinary Sausage is my go-to for youtube chefs.
- philodelta 6y agoNot to claim to be an expert in indian cooking (anglicized or otherwise), but I make a lot of curry from scratch, and I gotta say that featured video had a pretty excellent recipe. Entertaining but you can also tell he's an experienced cook.
- AmericanChopper 6y agoThe recipe is indeed not bad, but one thing that trips people up with Indian cooking is that store brought garam masala is pretty terrible. Using garam masala from the supermarket isn’t any different from using a jar of curry paste from the supermarket. Aside from the issue of quality, it goes stale, and when that happens the more subtle flavors fade first. Leaving you with something that is essentially cardamom powder, which can easily overpower a dish. For anybody that wants to get into Indian cooking, I’d suggest they always make their own masala mix at home, because it’s not difficult and the differences are pretty significant.
- kranner 6y ago[Read in Nat's voice] I'd bung in the garam masala at the end, champion (after turning the heat off).
- hnick 6y agoIf the pre-mixed powder goes stale, is that also a problem for the other spices you'd use to make it 'fresh'? Just wondering because I don't see how that fixes the problem, unless there's some interaction between the ingredients. I guess one benefit is you can put more of a particular spice in if it lost its zing. I'm speaking from someone who uses ground spices in jars/bags, I typically don't use fresh (apart from nutmeg).
- ses1984 6y agoYou keep cumin seeds, and then toast and freshly grind them the day you need them. Same with coriander, cardamom, anise, cinnamon, dried chilis, etc.
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- cdcgovcovid 6y agoCan someone honestly explain what this is doing on the front page of HN? I am completely at a loss.
- tomhoward 6y agoFrom the guidelines: On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. The upvoting and discussion suggest this article falls within the HN zone, even if it's a bit different to the norm (which is all the better to keep things fresh). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- Igelau 6y agoMy condolences
- PudgePacket 6y agoYou made a new account, called "cdcgovcovid", just to ask this? Why that account name?
- ballsass123 6y agoisolation!? how about HOUSE ARREST you fucking NAZI FASCIST POS!
- whalesalad 6y agoBinging With Babish is one of my favorite channels on YT if y’all are into cooking shows. When my wife and I are on the couch together it is the goto.
- Jedd 6y agoAm Australian. I realise he's parodying an archetype, but question whether it needs (more) parodying. The sweary thing is one way to distinguish from the competition I suppose, but all my favourite comedians manage to amuse without regular obscenity, in part because they reserve it for when emphasis is needed. (I'm not prudish about swearing - I swear like a trooper at home - but I do seek more thoughtful / less cheap material from my comedians.) I also note that he's adopted - though not as savagely as many - that favourite youtube technique of removing the full stops from the end of every sentence, leaving the whole monologue sounding like one long breathless sentence replete with visually jarring cuts. It's a horrendous editing technique. Evidently enough people can put up with it for it to remain popular, but I just quit any videos done in that style.
- samplatt 6y agoHe's leaning into the archetype, sure, but it's not a parody. People that know him are reporting that he's mostly "just like that", only now he's making videos. >leaving the whole monologue sounding like one long breathless sentence Unfortunately, the trend (piloted by South Park and cemented by Family Guy) of humorous media these days is to have as many jokes packed in as densely as possible and rely on the fast-fire rate to compensate for the weaker jokes. That's just what's popular these days.
- glangdale 6y agoCan confirm. I've met him, briefly - he's not quite as 'full on' in person as when performing to a camera but it's not an act.
- Jedd 6y agoOh, I'm sure. I expect (hope) that IRL he takes a breath between sentences, and while I've met people who manage to have a swear:meaning word ratio of 1:10 or higher ... I expect he's actually much more thoughtful in person, as he's clearly a smart guy. But I wasn't trying to assert otherwise in my earlier comment.
- jansan 6y agoHe reminds me a lot of the guy in this legendary interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAXp58W9aEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAXp58W9aEE I guess some Australians are just like that, love it.
- keiferski 6y agoAnd the slow march to Idiocracy-style content continues. Can the media cover YouTubers that don’t gain attention by swearing and being obnoxious?
- ggm 6y agoIf you can see past that, his actual cooking is good and is motivating a lot of other people. If you can't see past that, the great thing about media, is you can choose to ignore it.
- keiferski 6y ago> If you can't see past that, the great thing about media, is you can choose to ignore it. If only the world were so simple. In a democratic system, what is highlighted by the media affects everyone. Politics, culture, daily life. Certain political figures would not be political figures if the media didn’t cover their vulgar and obnoxious behavior constantly.
- nate_meurer 6y agoIt's a cooking show on youtube. I think we'll be ok.
- keiferski 6y agoBehaviors and attitudes deemed acceptable or mainstream don’t need to come from a grand source. Small things add up. This guy swears about 5 times in the first 60 seconds of his videos. It’s unnecessary and yet it’s being covered in a mainstream newspaper.
- nate_meurer 6y agoNo, it's a fucking cooking show on the internet. It's not going to add up to shit. When I was a kid people like you were complaining about all the cussing in hip hop. "They swear 5 times in the first 60 seconds". When my grandparents were young, people like you were complaining about the vulgar new "jazz" music that was going to corrupt the kids and make white women smoke dope. btw, necessary is a completely bullshit criteria by which to judge any art or entertainment.
- yesenadam 6y agoAustralian here. I just watched the curry and bolognese videos. Although I'm vegan and hate recipes with meat, I laughed out loud, a lot. Loved it. Can't wait to play them for my household. Just yesterday I was planning to make a home cooking series featuring the housemates, dammit! Too late.. As for whether he's a typical Aussie.. I have met people who talk pretty much like this. Probably none who are good cooks though. I had a German friend here who had a very fat book of Australian colloquialisms he was learning, but I hadn't heard 95% of them. Full of stuff like "dry as a dead dingo's donger". You hear them much more in country Australia I think. About 10 years ago our Prime Minister was widely mocked for saying "fair shake of the sauce bottle", when everyone knows it's a fair suck – a failed attempt to talk like an average Australian. https://www.google.com/search?q=rudd+fair+shake+sauce https://www.google.com/search?q=rudd+fair+shake+sauce
- yesenadam 6y agop.s. Damn, the housemates had already seen them and love them too. I have to share Michael Cusack's animations[0], they're very funny, appalling, and super-Australian. I've met many Australians who talk exactly like this. It's the most Australian stuff on youtube I've seen. [0] particularly the Damo & Darren series and the YOLO series, but pretty much all his videos since the first YOLO are amazingly good. (The very short Chuck Her In The Ute is genius.) https://www.youtube.com/user/aekime/videos https://www.youtube.com/user/aekime/videos Damo & Darren pt 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmL72sgVdAQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmL72sgVdAQ (ha, I just noticed most of the comments are from Australians confirming that it's very realistic)
- ajxs 6y agoIt's worth adding that for foreign viewers that no respectable Australian speaks like this, haha. The train station in the animation is supposed to represent Dapto, which is a lower socio-economic area located a few hours south of Sydney. In my experience, the animation captures the area pretty well.
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- rmason 6y agoBack in the sixties my Mom's favorite cooking show was the galloping gourmet. Guy was always boozing on the show and told one joke after another. It was so different than any other cooking show it became a big hit. Graham Kerr was a Brit who started his show in New Zealand then got an offer to move it to Canada where it was syndicated to the US. In 1971 at the height of his popularity he and his wife were in a bad car accident and retired. Today looking back it's outrageous fashion and bad taste jokes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czrj4yJm6z0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czrj4yJm6z0
- teekert 6y agoJust remember: F* JAR SAUCE!
- spiderjerusalem 6y agoThis is sort of regurgitated. Regular Ordinary Swedish Meal Time was quite popular around 7-8 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Wu3Bps9ic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Wu3Bps9ic
- yannis7 6y ago"sweary, ranty YouTuber" -- how original
- DeathArrow 6y agoI don't spend time watching clips of YouTube celebrities. Am I missing something important?
- jowsie 6y agoSome would argue by ignoring the likes of YouTube you are missing the modern era of entertainment. You do you, though.
- DeathArrow 6y agoI am not ignoring YouTube at all. I watch a lot of videos from which I can learn something or find entertaining. I've just found that I don't enjoy very much videos made for the sole purpose of making money. I think people should make money from their work, but there also should be a bit of value for the viewer also.
- mellosouls 6y agoI think in comedy the practice of using swear words as punctuation in lieu of actual wit has some similarity to the cgi overload in modern movies substituting for an intelligent script. I (regretfully) swear like a navvy myself at times and am up for vulgarity in comedy when its accompanied by actual - you know - comedy. Examples: Viz (uk magazine), Beavis and Butthead, etc. This was just childish, unoriginal humour and added to the cliched visual presentation was presumably mostly aimed at particularly dull teenagers.
- tomhoward 6y agoFrom reading the comments I can see it's not exactly obvious what to look for if you're interested to explore beyond what's embedded in the article, so here's a bit of a guide... - How To Make Quarantine Sauce: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OEDjDKV038 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OEDjDKV038 That's the one that kicked the whole thing off, back in Mid March when panic buying cleared the shelves of frozen & packet food. The others are: Quarantine Spirit Risotto: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSI4ZHVSatw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSI4ZHVSatw - Sin Bin Soup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIwhdOx9BL0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIwhdOx9BL0 - End of Days Bolognese: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw_Ze9zIafM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sw_Ze9zIafM - The Crowd Goes Mild Curry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uBDNhe6Gkk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uBDNhe6Gkk - Wham Bam Thank You Lamb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UWVym41dew https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UWVym41dew And if you're curious about the kinds of videos he was making before this foray into cooking: - The Overpriced Boat Show Review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXO3epj1lY4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXO3epj1lY4 - Summernats What I Reckon (at a car festival in which a major component is hotted up old cars doing burnouts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9EOundEuw8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9EOundEuw8
- kar1181 6y agoThis is by far the most Australian thing I've seen in years (expat :)). This is legit 'Straya. As an aside, Capsicum (peppers / bell peppers), I struggled for years overseas with the terminology until I finally broke the habit. Same with using Eggplant and Zucchini in the UK (Aubergine / Courgette).
- ajxs 6y agoAustralian here. This is probably not going to earn me any goodwill for posting, however I feel it needs to be said. I grew up in a very working class area, so I'm familiar with 'broad' Australian accents and culture. The accent in the videos strikes me as a lame affectation. In the last few years it's become trendy for washed-up alternative Australian youth to remodel themselves after the kids who bullied them in high-school once they hit their 30s. Straight-edge and crust-punk gigs are traded in for the cricket team and "sinking VB with the boys". This put-on accent invariably comes with it. 'Struthless' is another high-profile example of the newfound lame fascination with all things 'bogan'.
- namdnay 6y agoIn the UK we call it Mockney, Jamie Oliver being a prime representative of the phenomenon
- cam_l 6y agoHell, Aussie pollies have been doing this for donkeys ages (also comedians.. wildlife park owners). But I always found it funny that the broadest Aussie accents I've heard outside NT have been in urban Melbourne or Sydney.
- mrmincent 6y agoSame here, there’s something about the schtick that I can’t really warm to, ultimately it’s an insincere adaptation of bogan culture. To me bogan culture was always about letting an object rip and basking in its glory, not making self aware cooking shows. But I’m okay with that, I’m not the target audience and if they’re getting something out of it then I’m fine with that. I’ll stick to my happy middle class serious eats and bon appetit cooking videos.
- tnorthcutt 6y agoTo me bogan culture was always about letting an object rip and basking in its glory Can you interpret this, for someone who is not familiar with Australian culture?
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- darkwater 6y agoTotally unrelated with the Aussie thing but totally related with metal music and cuisine: Black Metal Vegan Chef https://youtu.be/CeZlih4DDNg https://youtu.be/CeZlih4DDNg pretty old now but I still find it funny
- hinkley 6y agoThis reminds be a bit of AWE and "crime pays but botany doesn't" There's a big area of tone and presentation between Julia Childs, Bob Villa/Roy Underhill and Gordon Ramsay. Somewhere between Gordon and Roy would be interesting. Roy made mistakes, including nicking the shit out of himself regularly, but never got frustrated and told too many dad jokes even for me. Gordon is a little too frustrated with bullshit even for me, and I should carry an epi-pen for my bullshit allergy.
- lappet 6y agoIndian here and I loved it. Death to jar sauce! I have been clamoring for no-nonsense cooking tips for ages...too many chefs take themselves too seriously. The video is a little jarring I must admit, but he looks like he is having fun!