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Are Apple employees scum of the earth for working for a company that uses Chinese factories? Are Facebook and Google employees scum of the earth for tracking u

Are Apple employees scum of the earth for working for a company that uses Chinese factories? Are Facebook and Google employees scum of the earth for tracking user data? Are Netflix employees scum of the earth for getting your kids addicted to TV? Are Instagram employees scum of the earth for perpetuating impossible beauty standards? This is insane. Juul was a company with great people working at it.

askafriend 6y ago
There is a difference between the other companies you listed and Juul. Juul does not have great people working for it, and the marketing was intentionally dishonest towards the most vulnerable in our society. None of those other companies specifically target kids with advertising and subversive grassroots efforts to try to get them hooked on drugs.
- t-writescode 6y ago
  I would argue Apple’s earbud commercials absolutely targeted the young enjoying music and looking cool with the white string earphones.
  - google234123 6y ago
    And that is equivalent to getting them hooked on drugs? Are you saying a toy company marketing toys to kids is equivalent to what Juul did because they both targeted children?
    - t-writescode 6y ago
      I was responding to this part > None of those other companies specifically target kids with advertising and subversive grassroots efforts to try to get them hooked on [their product] I didn't intend to equate it to drugs; and, admittedly, I didn't fully read that last sentence.
      - askafriend 6y ago
        Apple doesn't pass out private investment prospectuses to Hollywood celebrity teens in an attempt to build grass-root youth influencer support for their tobacco products. Apple makes headphones that work well for listening to music and they just show you that.
gamblor956 6y ago
Juul sells products the sole purpose of which is to deliver oversized doses of nicotine to users. It doesn't even matter if the marketing is bad, the product itself was exploitative and intended to make users addicts if they weren't already. All of the other company may have products that have negative aspects but none of the negative aspects are considered deliberate features of the product.
- asdff 6y ago
  Among smokers juul is about the only vape that size that delivers a cigarette like hit. Those little blu vapes? Poor draw and not strong enough to make a smoker switch without vaping a ton or supplementing with a patch. If you are worried about vapes with too much nicotine, look at the people blowing plumes of steam from what looks like a pipe bomb. A big hit like that could make you fall to the ground if you didn't have a tolerance, encountered that first hand.
  - gamblor956 6y ago
    That's the problem, in a nutshell. In order to quit, you need to train your body to want less nicotine, since that is the addictive part. Juul delivers the same or more nicotine as a cigarette. It is not intended to be a product to help smokers quit smoking.
    - asdff 6y ago
      Juul sells several nicotine levels. Most people that I know who used it to quit just weened themselves off.

askafriend 6y ago

There is a difference between the other companies you listed and Juul. Juul does not have great people working for it, and the marketing was intentionally dishonest towards the most vulnerable in our society. None of those other companies specifically target kids with advertising and subversive grassroots efforts to try to get them hooked on drugs.

t-writescode 6y ago
I would argue Apple’s earbud commercials absolutely targeted the young enjoying music and looking cool with the white string earphones.
- google234123 6y ago
  And that is equivalent to getting them hooked on drugs? Are you saying a toy company marketing toys to kids is equivalent to what Juul did because they both targeted children?
  - t-writescode 6y ago
    I was responding to this part > None of those other companies specifically target kids with advertising and subversive grassroots efforts to try to get them hooked on [their product] I didn't intend to equate it to drugs; and, admittedly, I didn't fully read that last sentence.
    - askafriend 6y ago
      Apple doesn't pass out private investment prospectuses to Hollywood celebrity teens in an attempt to build grass-root youth influencer support for their tobacco products. Apple makes headphones that work well for listening to music and they just show you that.

gamblor956 6y ago

Juul sells products the sole purpose of which is to deliver oversized doses of nicotine to users. It doesn't even matter if the marketing is bad, the product itself was exploitative and intended to make users addicts if they weren't already. All of the other company may have products that have negative aspects but none of the negative aspects are considered deliberate features of the product.

asdff 6y ago
Among smokers juul is about the only vape that size that delivers a cigarette like hit. Those little blu vapes? Poor draw and not strong enough to make a smoker switch without vaping a ton or supplementing with a patch. If you are worried about vapes with too much nicotine, look at the people blowing plumes of steam from what looks like a pipe bomb. A big hit like that could make you fall to the ground if you didn't have a tolerance, encountered that first hand.
- gamblor956 6y ago
  That's the problem, in a nutshell. In order to quit, you need to train your body to want less nicotine, since that is the addictive part. Juul delivers the same or more nicotine as a cigarette. It is not intended to be a product to help smokers quit smoking.
  - asdff 6y ago
    Juul sells several nicotine levels. Most people that I know who used it to quit just weened themselves off.