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I can imagine it because I do. I always keep an eye on cars as I'm walking in their path. It's not hard. I don't stop unless they aren't slowing down, and I'

I can imagine it because I do. I always keep an eye on cars as I'm walking in their path. It's not hard. I don't stop unless they aren't slowing down, and I'm always ready to move in a different direction and/or a different speed. I'm not saying everyone can do that, and I think we agree that people shouldn't have to do that. Situational awareness, constantly coming up with alternative plans, and always making sure an "out" is available has kept me alive in dangerous situations. Anyway, that's how I live. People are wired diferently.

renewiltord 6y ago
All right, describe your behaviour under these (very common, in San Francisco) circumstances: A Tesla is stopped at a red light just before a pedestrian crossing. The Tesla can go from 0-30 mph before you can cross its width at walking pace. The walk light is on. You have the right-of-way.
- RandomBacon 6y ago
  What are you trying to accomplish? To answer your question, it's like I said: situational awareness. Is the driver only looking at oncoming traffic, or do they look around? It's rare, but I have waited at crosswalks with the walk light on because it wasn't safe. I have also walked out of the way or not walked when a driver still saw me and went anyway.
  - renewiltord 6y ago
    To detect the boundaries of your rules to determine whether they can be implemented reasonably by an arbitrary individual and to illustrate that there are limits where your own stated rules would fail and you likely violate them. So far I have determined from your rules that you should never step in front of an electric vehicle under any condition. The driver could look right at you and accidentally step on the pedal. After all, situational awareness doesn't bring people back to life.
    - RandomBacon 6y ago
      > I have determined from your rules that you should never step in front of an electric vehicle under any condition. That would be a poor deduction. It seems like you have a bone to pick. I don't care to facilitate or engage in such behaviors.

renewiltord 6y ago

All right, describe your behaviour under these (very common, in San Francisco) circumstances: A Tesla is stopped at a red light just before a pedestrian crossing. The Tesla can go from 0-30 mph before you can cross its width at walking pace. The walk light is on. You have the right-of-way.

RandomBacon 6y ago
What are you trying to accomplish? To answer your question, it's like I said: situational awareness. Is the driver only looking at oncoming traffic, or do they look around? It's rare, but I have waited at crosswalks with the walk light on because it wasn't safe. I have also walked out of the way or not walked when a driver still saw me and went anyway.
- renewiltord 6y ago
  To detect the boundaries of your rules to determine whether they can be implemented reasonably by an arbitrary individual and to illustrate that there are limits where your own stated rules would fail and you likely violate them. So far I have determined from your rules that you should never step in front of an electric vehicle under any condition. The driver could look right at you and accidentally step on the pedal. After all, situational awareness doesn't bring people back to life.
  - RandomBacon 6y ago
    > I have determined from your rules that you should never step in front of an electric vehicle under any condition. That would be a poor deduction. It seems like you have a bone to pick. I don't care to facilitate or engage in such behaviors.