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I don't believe the Tesla crowd bought theirs to save on gas anyway, so not sure if this is true.

grecy 6y ago
Maybe not, but if gas had continued to go up in 2020 and 2021, you'd have to think that would help convince move people to shift over to electric.
- blizkreeg 6y ago
  I've somehow never believed that theory. There are tens of thousands who buy gas guzzlers, at whatever price of gas was/is. If only people were that rational, they'd stop buying them to save our planet. You can tax cigarettes all you want, people are still gonna smoke.
  - grecy 6y ago
    Sure tens of thousands buy gas guzzlers because they can afford it / don't care. But there are also tens of thousands more that don't because they can't afford it.
jsight 6y ago
I've always felt like the base Model 3 and base BMW 3 series were very comparable. Add in a couple of thousand, and the 3 looks like a bargain. That becomes a harder sell when the Model 3 is actually more expensive to operate, as it is in some places now. Its not that they are buying to save money vs the economical choices, but it does make a difference relative to their comps (RWD & AWD sport sedans).
- caf 6y ago
  Do customers really believe the current exceptionally low oil prices are going to be a permanent feature?
  - mrguyorama 6y ago
    Last time the oil price went down this aggressively coincided with the massive uptick in people buying SUVs
  - xkjkls 6y ago
    Oil futures are under $40 all the way through the end of 2022: https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/clz22 https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/clz22
    - caf 6y ago
      I fully accept I may be wildly out of touch with the common man, but I tend to be thinking of 8-10 years product life when I'm considering the TCO of a new vehicle.
      - xkjkls 6y ago
        Oil futures don’t go that far out unfortunately
  - jsight 6y ago
    I personally don't, and I suspect a lot of others do not either.
- ericd 6y ago
  Personally, I'd take an EV over even a high performance ICE car in terms of everyday driving fun. I used to drive a hardtop 335, and really loved that thing, but there's no throttle delay on the Model 3, let alone turbo lag.
xkjkls 6y ago
It's always going to be a factor. Total cost of ownership is one of the biggest factors in car sales.

Maybe not, but if gas had continued to go up in 2020 and 2021, you'd have to think that would help convince move people to shift over to electric.

blizkreeg 6y ago
I've somehow never believed that theory. There are tens of thousands who buy gas guzzlers, at whatever price of gas was/is. If only people were that rational, they'd stop buying them to save our planet. You can tax cigarettes all you want, people are still gonna smoke.
- grecy 6y ago
  Sure tens of thousands buy gas guzzlers because they can afford it / don't care. But there are also tens of thousands more that don't because they can't afford it.

jsight 6y ago

I've always felt like the base Model 3 and base BMW 3 series were very comparable. Add in a couple of thousand, and the 3 looks like a bargain. That becomes a harder sell when the Model 3 is actually more expensive to operate, as it is in some places now. Its not that they are buying to save money vs the economical choices, but it does make a difference relative to their comps (RWD & AWD sport sedans).

caf 6y ago
Do customers really believe the current exceptionally low oil prices are going to be a permanent feature?
- mrguyorama 6y ago
  Last time the oil price went down this aggressively coincided with the massive uptick in people buying SUVs
- xkjkls 6y ago
  Oil futures are under $40 all the way through the end of 2022: https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/clz22 https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/future/clz22
  - caf 6y ago
    I fully accept I may be wildly out of touch with the common man, but I tend to be thinking of 8-10 years product life when I'm considering the TCO of a new vehicle.
    - xkjkls 6y ago
      Oil futures don’t go that far out unfortunately
- jsight 6y ago
  I personally don't, and I suspect a lot of others do not either.
ericd 6y ago
Personally, I'd take an EV over even a high performance ICE car in terms of everyday driving fun. I used to drive a hardtop 335, and really loved that thing, but there's no throttle delay on the Model 3, let alone turbo lag.

xkjkls 6y ago

It's always going to be a factor. Total cost of ownership is one of the biggest factors in car sales.