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Boston, which is almost exactly the same populations as Baltimore, had 72 murders last year. If New York had the murder rate that Baltimore does that would mea

Boston, which is almost exactly the same populations as Baltimore, had 72 murders last year. If New York had the murder rate that Baltimore does that would mean over 3000 people murdered in a year. Baltimore has a serious violence problem no matter how you try to rationalize it.

subelsky 16y ago
who's trying to rationalize it? There's not much I can do about it; it's still an awesome place to live. Good luck buying a house in a nice part of Boston or NYC as a working-class or middle-class person. Meanwhile I'm hacking code, running a startup, and I live in a super nice house in a walkable neighborhood that's very different than the one narrow slice you saw in that show.
- asmithmd1 16y ago
  I am criticizing as only a family member can (or should.) I grew-up outside Baltimore and lived in the city for 10 years in Federal Hill, Canton, and Homeland. My wife and I decided we wanted to raise our family in Boston and when we were looking for a place in 2004 I was shocked to find out there were only 39 murders in Boston in 2003. The status quo in Baltimore is not acceptable and is not what is tolerated in other cities. However, I will be applying and I would love to spend 3 months back in Baltimore.
- thestoicattack 16y ago
  What neighborhood? (Charles Village here.)
  - subelsky 16y ago
    We haven't locked down the space yet but are hoping for a spot in Fells Point. I actually also live in Charles Village, let's meet up for coffee sometime! (mike@subelsky.com)
llimllib 16y ago
That's irrelevant to what Paul said; he didn't say that Baltimore's murder rate wasn't outrageously high. What he said is: > unless you are actively involved in [drug] trades or unfortunate enough to be caught up in it by proximity, it likely will never visit you. Baltimore undoubtedly has a serious drug violence problem; much more serious than Boston and NYC. (Fortunately our government's Drug War is on the verge of eliminating that problem any day now!) What Paul is saying, though, is that this problem has remarkably small collateral damage considering its severity; almost nobody who's not involved with the drug trade ends up in those murder statistics. (I know it's not nobody, but I suspect that the rate of "unrelated to drug trade" murders in Baltimore is similar to that in Boston and NYC.)

subelsky 16y ago

who's trying to rationalize it? There's not much I can do about it; it's still an awesome place to live. Good luck buying a house in a nice part of Boston or NYC as a working-class or middle-class person. Meanwhile I'm hacking code, running a startup, and I live in a super nice house in a walkable neighborhood that's very different than the one narrow slice you saw in that show.

asmithmd1 16y ago
I am criticizing as only a family member can (or should.) I grew-up outside Baltimore and lived in the city for 10 years in Federal Hill, Canton, and Homeland. My wife and I decided we wanted to raise our family in Boston and when we were looking for a place in 2004 I was shocked to find out there were only 39 murders in Boston in 2003. The status quo in Baltimore is not acceptable and is not what is tolerated in other cities. However, I will be applying and I would love to spend 3 months back in Baltimore.
thestoicattack 16y ago
What neighborhood? (Charles Village here.)
- subelsky 16y ago
  We haven't locked down the space yet but are hoping for a spot in Fells Point. I actually also live in Charles Village, let's meet up for coffee sometime! (mike@subelsky.com)

llimllib 16y ago

That's irrelevant to what Paul said; he didn't say that Baltimore's murder rate wasn't outrageously high. What he said is: > unless you are actively involved in [drug] trades or unfortunate enough to be caught up in it by proximity, it likely will never visit you. Baltimore undoubtedly has a serious drug violence problem; much more serious than Boston and NYC. (Fortunately our government's Drug War is on the verge of eliminating that problem any day now!) What Paul is saying, though, is that this problem has remarkably small collateral damage considering its severity; almost nobody who's not involved with the drug trade ends up in those murder statistics. (I know it's not nobody, but I suspect that the rate of "unrelated to drug trade" murders in Baltimore is similar to that in Boston and NYC.)