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> I probably just lost 99% of you Yeah, moving from Google over to Apple is just cheating. It's better for privacy, but I'd rather thinker with my system to re

by lucb1e 7y ago

> I probably just lost 99% of you Yeah, moving from Google over to Apple is just cheating. It's better for privacy, but I'd rather thinker with my system to remove the spyware than remove the spyware and largely give up the ability to easily tinker with my system.

bottle2 7y ago
I don’t know. I’m a tinkerer but if we think about phone ecosystem, then I just want my phone to work and not spy on me. I’ll tinker with my other devices, but after bricking one phone, I won’t do it again.
- lucb1e 7y ago
  The tinkering doesn't have to be invasive or risky. I share your worry and am rather scared of breaking anything because of the amount of work I put into the configuration. My solution is to root very early on, just after testing everything and making sure I don't want to make sure of my 14 day return right, so if something goes wrong there I don't lose data. After that, I use root for all sorts of things, but after configuring everything I don't do invasive things like installing different ROMs or removing system apps or so.
- ocdtrekkie 7y ago
  Indeed. The other thing I learned after having a Windows Mobile phone for years: I don't need every latest app either. I want my phone to take calls, texts, emails, pictures, and I am mostly good to go. I switched to an iPhone recently, but I'm not really engaging heavily with Apple's services or ecosystem.
geekgonecrazy 7y ago
The ability to tinker was my argument for Android for years. And if I want to tinker Android is still the way. After a point of tinkering, flashing Roms, getting stuck in hairy situations where your phone is bootlooping and you don't know if you will get it back. At some point having to mess with configuration gets annoying. I kinda view this like an experiment to see how the other side is living with my eye very much on Android waiting for an excuse to jump back over. I wish there were more good options for De-Google'd Android shipped from a vendor that actually cared about privacy and had the chops to make a smooth experience

by lucb1e 7y ago

bottle2 7y ago

I don’t know. I’m a tinkerer but if we think about phone ecosystem, then I just want my phone to work and not spy on me. I’ll tinker with my other devices, but after bricking one phone, I won’t do it again.

lucb1e 7y ago
The tinkering doesn't have to be invasive or risky. I share your worry and am rather scared of breaking anything because of the amount of work I put into the configuration. My solution is to root very early on, just after testing everything and making sure I don't want to make sure of my 14 day return right, so if something goes wrong there I don't lose data. After that, I use root for all sorts of things, but after configuring everything I don't do invasive things like installing different ROMs or removing system apps or so.
ocdtrekkie 7y ago
Indeed. The other thing I learned after having a Windows Mobile phone for years: I don't need every latest app either. I want my phone to take calls, texts, emails, pictures, and I am mostly good to go. I switched to an iPhone recently, but I'm not really engaging heavily with Apple's services or ecosystem.

geekgonecrazy 7y ago

The ability to tinker was my argument for Android for years. And if I want to tinker Android is still the way. After a point of tinkering, flashing Roms, getting stuck in hairy situations where your phone is bootlooping and you don't know if you will get it back. At some point having to mess with configuration gets annoying. I kinda view this like an experiment to see how the other side is living with my eye very much on Android waiting for an excuse to jump back over. I wish there were more good options for De-Google'd Android shipped from a vendor that actually cared about privacy and had the chops to make a smooth experience