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That stack was most likely legacy middleware + database backend, a combination of fusion middleware, oracle database, CRM, etc. running on physical hardware or

That stack was most likely legacy middleware + database backend, a combination of fusion middleware, oracle database, CRM, etc. running on physical hardware or virtualized. Not automated, very basic HA, not easily scalable. Nothing to do with Oracle Cloud (although Oracle Cloud won't be on my list unless it's marginally cheaper than other cloud service providers). BTW: Talking about Oracle Cloud, my free tier trial ended miserably, 2 weeks after provisioning the VMs, Cockpit (I run it on my home NAS - managing/monitoring a small group of cloud VPS using the web UI) reported connection failed, only to find that my account has been terminated without any warning or notification along with my 2 free VMs based in Phoenix, lucky that I didn't actually put any workload on it (left them running only - feeling something's gonna happen...), contacted support and was told account deleted, no reason, redirected me to customer support (my oracle support, I couldn't figure out how that works, so give up...). I still don't understand how Oracle Cloud login works...

freedomben 6y ago
Geez, thanks for sharing your experience. I run a number of things that I pay for myself and my cloud bill each month is becoming non-negligible. Even tho it kills me inside I considered looking at Oracle, but this is enough to steer me away. Thank you :-)
- terrywang 6y ago
  Looks like you should have a good look at DigitalOcean to run your personal side projects or fun stuff, which has a much more simpler and transparent billing model (capped, no nasty hidden cost). I've been a long time DO customer and overall happy for the past 7 years. I've write my personal experience [1] with DO in another post. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23016669 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23016669
- Tostino 6y ago
  I had the same experience on my trial, along with SUPER pushy sales people. In the end, after I gave them our setup on DO and they said they'd come up with a proposal for an equivalent setup in Oracle Cloud, they came back and said "can't do it" and their proposal was a little over 3x what our current bill was.
suyash 6y ago
Yes, Most Gov systems are still not on cloud, OCI is way better and modern, cheaper than AWS (Disclaimer : I work at Oracle).

freedomben 6y ago

Geez, thanks for sharing your experience. I run a number of things that I pay for myself and my cloud bill each month is becoming non-negligible. Even tho it kills me inside I considered looking at Oracle, but this is enough to steer me away. Thank you :-)

terrywang 6y ago
Looks like you should have a good look at DigitalOcean to run your personal side projects or fun stuff, which has a much more simpler and transparent billing model (capped, no nasty hidden cost). I've been a long time DO customer and overall happy for the past 7 years. I've write my personal experience [1] with DO in another post. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23016669 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23016669
Tostino 6y ago
I had the same experience on my trial, along with SUPER pushy sales people. In the end, after I gave them our setup on DO and they said they'd come up with a proposal for an equivalent setup in Oracle Cloud, they came back and said "can't do it" and their proposal was a little over 3x what our current bill was.

suyash 6y ago

Yes, Most Gov systems are still not on cloud, OCI is way better and modern, cheaper than AWS (Disclaimer : I work at Oracle).