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- Google Hangouts - Google Hangouts Meet - Google Hangouts Chat - Hangouts Chat - Google Chat - Google Talk - Google Allo - Google Due - Google Voice -

- Google Hangouts - Google Hangouts Meet - Google Hangouts Chat - Hangouts Chat - Google Chat - Google Talk - Google Allo - Google Due - Google Voice - Google Meet - Android Messages - Youtube Messages Product management at its best. Half of the time I don't know which app I am using.

zo1 6y ago
Duo as well?
- finstell 6y ago
  thanks, added that one as well.
  - mkl 6y ago
    With a typo.
dr_dshiv 6y ago
I love that in Google Hangouts chat, default chat app on Android phone, there is no search capability. I keep using it because I'm assuming they will add it eventually. I still find the Gmail+chat+hangout combo to be extremely robust and easy -- I just don't know why it isn't supported.
- dmos62 6y ago
  You didn't miss that it's about to get killed right? I've been an avid user of Google Hangouts. I wonder what will I use instead.
  - dr_dshiv 6y ago
    Wait, the chats are getting killed? Or the video? Or is it getting renamed? Super confused.
    - dmos62 6y ago
      I found out about it on https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/ just now. However, after double-checking, apparently it's some G Suite Hangouts variant that's getting killed: https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2019/08/updates-to-hangouts-chat-migration.html https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2019/08/updates-to-hang...
- qiqitori 6y ago
  You can export your Hangouts chat history on takeout.google.com. The resulting Hangsouts.json file is human-readable but not fun to read. I have a one-liner to convert it into something nicer, but it doesn't resolve user names and you need to figure out the conversation ID you want to export yourself. jq -c '.conversations[] | select(.conversation.conversation_id.id == "YOUNEEDTOFILLTHISINYOURSELF") | .events[] | [(.timestamp | tonumber / 1000000 + (9*3600)| strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S (%a)")), .sender_id.gaia_id, [.chat_message.message_content.segment[]?.text], .chat_message.message_content.attachment[]?.embed_item?.plus_photo?.url?]' Hangouts.json | sort > foo.log When you open Hangouts.json, you'll see that every conversation has something like this at the beginning: "conversation_id": { "id": "BASE64-LIKE_STRING" } This BASE64-LIKE_STRING belongs into the YOUNEEDTOFILLTHISINYOURSELF placeholder.
- AjithAntony 6y ago
  Hangouts conversations are archived in your gmail, you could search there.
- summerlight 6y ago
  The new version of Chat has a search functionality so you'll likely get it when the transition's done.
zeptoon 6y ago
If they change the name fast enough maybe they escape from having to cancel it?
peteretep 6y ago
Make sure the one you choose doesn’t get discontinued tho
mft_ 6y ago
I think Meet == Hangouts Meet, now? And maybe Google Hangouts Chat == Hangouts Chat == Google Chat? But yes, your underlying point about the total ridiculousness of this is good.
radicalbyte 6y ago
They've clearly learnt from Microsoft. Is Hangouts even a thing? I still see people pop-up in the Hangout chat section of gmail, I occasionally message people but never get replies. So it's either broken or I'm being ignored :)
- Leace 6y ago
  It's still a thing for people that started using it when it was the latest Google chat product. It may be surprising but people just want stable chat experience not chasing whatever next product Google releases or kills next year. (I did migrate my family and friends to self hosted XMPP server as Hangouts doesn't have E2EE)
wscott 6y ago
The is a chat-like client builtin to Photos now. It is actually pretty nice to easily send pictures to my mother with the ability to answer questions about them. Unlike other chats no need to download and reupload the pictures. When that came out I was rather surprised it wasn't just an extension to Hangouts or one of their other chat apps.
ibdf 6y ago
Hangouts was great when it came out and a bunch of people I know adopted it... and then it stopped getting meaningful updates - instead of growing and expanding hangouts, they decided to rename it, replace it, redo it. I'm pretty sure there's a team at google that's just renames products.
summerlight 6y ago
Well, to be fair: - Google Chat = Hangouts Chat = Google Hangouts Chat - Google Hangouts Meet = Google Meet - Google Hangouts = Google Talk = soon to be dead - Google Allo = dead - Youtube Messages = is it even a separate product? So by the end of 2020, the line-up should be like: - Google Meet (=Zoom) - Google Chat (=Slack) - Google Duo (=FaceTime) - Google Voice (=Phone call) - Android Messages (=SMS). Not ideal, but not as bad as you described.

zo1 6y ago

Duo as well?

finstell 6y ago
thanks, added that one as well.
- mkl 6y ago
  With a typo.

dr_dshiv 6y ago

I love that in Google Hangouts chat, default chat app on Android phone, there is no search capability. I keep using it because I'm assuming they will add it eventually. I still find the Gmail+chat+hangout combo to be extremely robust and easy -- I just don't know why it isn't supported.

dmos62 6y ago
You didn't miss that it's about to get killed right? I've been an avid user of Google Hangouts. I wonder what will I use instead.
- dr_dshiv 6y ago
  Wait, the chats are getting killed? Or the video? Or is it getting renamed? Super confused.
  - dmos62 6y ago
    I found out about it on https://killedbygoogle.com/ https://killedbygoogle.com/ just now. However, after double-checking, apparently it's some G Suite Hangouts variant that's getting killed: https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2019/08/updates-to-hangouts-chat-migration.html https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2019/08/updates-to-hang...
qiqitori 6y ago
You can export your Hangouts chat history on takeout.google.com. The resulting Hangsouts.json file is human-readable but not fun to read. I have a one-liner to convert it into something nicer, but it doesn't resolve user names and you need to figure out the conversation ID you want to export yourself. jq -c '.conversations[] | select(.conversation.conversation_id.id == "YOUNEEDTOFILLTHISINYOURSELF") | .events[] | [(.timestamp | tonumber / 1000000 + (9*3600)| strftime("%Y-%m-%d %H:%M:%S (%a)")), .sender_id.gaia_id, [.chat_message.message_content.segment[]?.text], .chat_message.message_content.attachment[]?.embed_item?.plus_photo?.url?]' Hangouts.json | sort > foo.log When you open Hangouts.json, you'll see that every conversation has something like this at the beginning: "conversation_id": { "id": "BASE64-LIKE_STRING" } This BASE64-LIKE_STRING belongs into the YOUNEEDTOFILLTHISINYOURSELF placeholder.
AjithAntony 6y ago
Hangouts conversations are archived in your gmail, you could search there.
summerlight 6y ago
The new version of Chat has a search functionality so you'll likely get it when the transition's done.

zeptoon 6y ago

If they change the name fast enough maybe they escape from having to cancel it?

peteretep 6y ago

Make sure the one you choose doesn’t get discontinued tho

mft_ 6y ago

I think Meet == Hangouts Meet, now? And maybe Google Hangouts Chat == Hangouts Chat == Google Chat? But yes, your underlying point about the total ridiculousness of this is good.

radicalbyte 6y ago

They've clearly learnt from Microsoft. Is Hangouts even a thing? I still see people pop-up in the Hangout chat section of gmail, I occasionally message people but never get replies. So it's either broken or I'm being ignored :)

Leace 6y ago
It's still a thing for people that started using it when it was the latest Google chat product. It may be surprising but people just want stable chat experience not chasing whatever next product Google releases or kills next year. (I did migrate my family and friends to self hosted XMPP server as Hangouts doesn't have E2EE)

wscott 6y ago

The is a chat-like client builtin to Photos now. It is actually pretty nice to easily send pictures to my mother with the ability to answer questions about them. Unlike other chats no need to download and reupload the pictures. When that came out I was rather surprised it wasn't just an extension to Hangouts or one of their other chat apps.

ibdf 6y ago

Hangouts was great when it came out and a bunch of people I know adopted it... and then it stopped getting meaningful updates - instead of growing and expanding hangouts, they decided to rename it, replace it, redo it. I'm pretty sure there's a team at google that's just renames products.

summerlight 6y ago

Well, to be fair: - Google Chat = Hangouts Chat = Google Hangouts Chat - Google Hangouts Meet = Google Meet - Google Hangouts = Google Talk = soon to be dead - Google Allo = dead - Youtube Messages = is it even a separate product? So by the end of 2020, the line-up should be like: - Google Meet (=Zoom) - Google Chat (=Slack) - Google Duo (=FaceTime) - Google Voice (=Phone call) - Android Messages (=SMS). Not ideal, but not as bad as you described.