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Speedier, simpler and safer: Chrome’s basics get even better

46 points by Uncle_Sam 16y ago

swix 16y ago
Great as always, it's just sad that the competition is so much behind in js performance :( but awesome work chrome team! I have only noticed slow performance for one single thing in chrome... border-radius: Have anyone noticed that Chrome is slow if you have a lot of elements (A table with 20+) or something TDs that has -webkit-border-radius ? Scrolling on the page becomes sluggish, but if you dont use the border radius scrolling is normal. This also happends if you use draggables with jquery and -webkit-border-radius , it's more sluggish to drag this div around (With border-radius) than a normal div, guess it's more work to render round corners, but would be cool with a fix here.
- ootachi 16y ago
  Chrome doesn't have retained layers, so it has to redraw the entire page every time you scroll. In fact, no shipping browser has retained layers except Safari in limited circumstances (not scrolling AFAIK), although Firefox 4 will have it soon.
mhb 16y ago
It would be great if they could make the side tabs look nicer. In particular graphics defining the edges of the tabs would be a big improvement.
KeithMajhor 16y ago
You can use this now. Go to "about:flags" and enable "Tabbed Settings"
Xurinos 16y ago
Does anyone have a link to the full feature release list? I am still looking for "Support for NoScript" and "Supports JavaScript later than 1.5, which was released in 2000" (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/JavaScript#Versions https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/JavaScript#Ve...).
sudonim 16y ago
Unsurprising to see them add the preferences to the browser. Your preferences (settings) exist like this in the CR-48 running Chrome OS. This change is probably driven by the desire to standardize both interface and codebase more than anything else. It's not standard to do it this way on any OS and feels a little odd.
- AndreSegers 16y ago
  Indeed, but I'm mixed on the change. I used to filled with the options while being able to see the webpage in the background, which I can no longer do (without pulling out the tab). But it's growing on me.
prosa 16y ago
Sadly, they removed some power user menu options, like "Open Frame in New Tab".
- cdr 16y ago
  I'm guessing not enough people used them to justify the added complexity - I certainly never used "Open Frame in New Tab". If it's something you absolutely have to have, there's always extensions.
  - pygy_ 16y ago
    > I certainly never used "Open Frame in New Tab". I do on a regular basis, in order to get PDFs out of their frame on the Blackboard system of my university.
    - DTrejo 16y ago
      right click > save as :) I have the same problem, so I feel you.
      - pygy_ 16y ago
        I actually like to have several PDFs open in different tabs. Preview.app (OS X) can't do that.
  - beaumartinez 16y ago
    > To justify the added complexity. Have you had a look at Chromium's source tree[1]? It's huge! I don't know how much complexity they'd save themselves removing a small feature like that (although you never know). Have a look at the building instructions[2] as well. "Due mostly to its history and its complexity, Chromium uses a nonstandard set of custom tools to check out and build." It's a good showcase on the complexity of a browser (and Chrome feels so light and speedy as well.) [1] http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/ http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/ [2] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxBuildInstructions http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxBuildInstruction...
MikeCapone 16y ago
For some reason I can't watch youtube in full-screen anymore in Chrome (I get a blank screen) on my Macbook, and many youtube video are choppy. Works fine in Safari, and used to work fine in Chrome. I thought this upgrade would fix it, but it didn't... Anybody else experiencing this issue?
- beaumartinez 16y ago
  Flash plugin issue? Chrome comes with its own separate one (made by Adobe), which it updates itself (at least on Windows and Linux). Have a look at chrome://plugins; ask on SuperUser if you can't find an immediate solution to the problem yourself.
  - MikeCapone 16y ago
    I'm on a Mac. It says I have two versions: Shockwave Flash 10.2 r154 Version: 10.2.154.18 and Shockwave Flash 10.1 r102 Version: 10.1.102.64 One in a Chrome sub-directory and the other in /Library/Internet Plug-ins/ I'm not familiar with SuperUser, but I'll check it out if I can't figure it out. Thanks! Update: I disabled one of the two flash plugins and tried youtube and it was fine. Then I re-enabled it and it was still fine. Weird bug, but hopefully it's gone for good.
    - MikeCapone 16y ago
      It wasn't a permanent cure after all.. Problem is back.
- aik 16y ago
  Yeah I've had the same problem once in a while, in addition to some others. Not sure what the fix is. It seems to sometimes work for me.
Estragon 16y ago
Slightly OT: does anyone know why the chrome developers absolutely, positively refuse to implement Find As You Type? http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=150#c191 (This isn't guerilla lobbying; I'm genuinely curious as to why they would resist including a feature I find so useful. And anyway, the third-party type-ahead-find extension is working adequately for me, so far...)
- drivebyacct2 16y ago
  Ctrl+F is that hard to press?
  - Estragon 16y ago
    Not the point at all. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2304605 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2304605
    - drivebyacct2 16y ago
      I see.
- scott_s 16y ago
  Response #4 answered your question (http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=150#c4 http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=150#c4), and I agree.
  - Estragon 16y ago
    That response misses the key advantage of Type-Ahead Find (which I guess I didn't make clear in my question) that pressing tab moves the focus to the next link in the text flow, and pressing Enter (Ctrl-Enter) opens the link (in a new window with Ctrl-Enter.) It's a much faster way to browse, because it completely eliminates mousing.
    - scott_s 16y ago
ChuckMcM 16y ago
It would be great if they built Chromium for CentOS. Alas only Ubuntu.
Refringe 16y ago
> [...] or if you're already using Chrome, you'll be automatically updated to this new version soon! (vigorous fist pumps)

46 points by Uncle_Sam 16y ago

swix 16y ago

Great as always, it's just sad that the competition is so much behind in js performance :( but awesome work chrome team! I have only noticed slow performance for one single thing in chrome... border-radius: Have anyone noticed that Chrome is slow if you have a lot of elements (A table with 20+) or something TDs that has -webkit-border-radius ? Scrolling on the page becomes sluggish, but if you dont use the border radius scrolling is normal. This also happends if you use draggables with jquery and -webkit-border-radius , it's more sluggish to drag this div around (With border-radius) than a normal div, guess it's more work to render round corners, but would be cool with a fix here.

ootachi 16y ago
Chrome doesn't have retained layers, so it has to redraw the entire page every time you scroll. In fact, no shipping browser has retained layers except Safari in limited circumstances (not scrolling AFAIK), although Firefox 4 will have it soon.

mhb 16y ago

It would be great if they could make the side tabs look nicer. In particular graphics defining the edges of the tabs would be a big improvement.

KeithMajhor 16y ago

You can use this now. Go to "about:flags" and enable "Tabbed Settings"

Xurinos 16y ago

Does anyone have a link to the full feature release list? I am still looking for "Support for NoScript" and "Supports JavaScript later than 1.5, which was released in 2000" (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/JavaScript#Versions https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/JavaScript#Ve...).

sudonim 16y ago

Unsurprising to see them add the preferences to the browser. Your preferences (settings) exist like this in the CR-48 running Chrome OS. This change is probably driven by the desire to standardize both interface and codebase more than anything else. It's not standard to do it this way on any OS and feels a little odd.

AndreSegers 16y ago
Indeed, but I'm mixed on the change. I used to filled with the options while being able to see the webpage in the background, which I can no longer do (without pulling out the tab). But it's growing on me.

prosa 16y ago

Sadly, they removed some power user menu options, like "Open Frame in New Tab".

cdr 16y ago
I'm guessing not enough people used them to justify the added complexity - I certainly never used "Open Frame in New Tab". If it's something you absolutely have to have, there's always extensions.
- pygy_ 16y ago
  > I certainly never used "Open Frame in New Tab". I do on a regular basis, in order to get PDFs out of their frame on the Blackboard system of my university.
  - DTrejo 16y ago
    right click > save as :) I have the same problem, so I feel you.
    - pygy_ 16y ago
      I actually like to have several PDFs open in different tabs. Preview.app (OS X) can't do that.
- beaumartinez 16y ago
  > To justify the added complexity. Have you had a look at Chromium's source tree[1]? It's huge! I don't know how much complexity they'd save themselves removing a small feature like that (although you never know). Have a look at the building instructions[2] as well. "Due mostly to its history and its complexity, Chromium uses a nonstandard set of custom tools to check out and build." It's a good showcase on the complexity of a browser (and Chrome feels so light and speedy as well.) [1] http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/ http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/ [2] http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxBuildInstructions http://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxBuildInstruction...

MikeCapone 16y ago

For some reason I can't watch youtube in full-screen anymore in Chrome (I get a blank screen) on my Macbook, and many youtube video are choppy. Works fine in Safari, and used to work fine in Chrome. I thought this upgrade would fix it, but it didn't... Anybody else experiencing this issue?

beaumartinez 16y ago
Flash plugin issue? Chrome comes with its own separate one (made by Adobe), which it updates itself (at least on Windows and Linux). Have a look at chrome://plugins; ask on SuperUser if you can't find an immediate solution to the problem yourself.
- MikeCapone 16y ago
  I'm on a Mac. It says I have two versions: Shockwave Flash 10.2 r154 Version: 10.2.154.18 and Shockwave Flash 10.1 r102 Version: 10.1.102.64 One in a Chrome sub-directory and the other in /Library/Internet Plug-ins/ I'm not familiar with SuperUser, but I'll check it out if I can't figure it out. Thanks! Update: I disabled one of the two flash plugins and tried youtube and it was fine. Then I re-enabled it and it was still fine. Weird bug, but hopefully it's gone for good.
  - MikeCapone 16y ago
    It wasn't a permanent cure after all.. Problem is back.
aik 16y ago
Yeah I've had the same problem once in a while, in addition to some others. Not sure what the fix is. It seems to sometimes work for me.

Estragon 16y ago

Slightly OT: does anyone know why the chrome developers absolutely, positively refuse to implement Find As You Type? http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=150#c191 (This isn't guerilla lobbying; I'm genuinely curious as to why they would resist including a feature I find so useful. And anyway, the third-party type-ahead-find extension is working adequately for me, so far...)

drivebyacct2 16y ago
Ctrl+F is that hard to press?
- Estragon 16y ago
  Not the point at all. http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2304605 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2304605
  - drivebyacct2 16y ago
    I see.
scott_s 16y ago
Response #4 answered your question (http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=150#c4 http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=150#c4), and I agree.
- Estragon 16y ago
  That response misses the key advantage of Type-Ahead Find (which I guess I didn't make clear in my question) that pressing tab moves the focus to the next link in the text flow, and pressing Enter (Ctrl-Enter) opens the link (in a new window with Ctrl-Enter.) It's a much faster way to browse, because it completely eliminates mousing.
  - scott_s 16y ago

ChuckMcM 16y ago

It would be great if they built Chromium for CentOS. Alas only Ubuntu.

Refringe 16y ago

> [...] or if you're already using Chrome, you'll be automatically updated to this new version soon! (vigorous fist pumps)