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Couldn’t the spike in nyc deaths be inflated due to the standard operating procedure of using mechanical ventilators for which 9 of 10 patients die [1]? Wasn’t
by jonkho 6y ago
Couldn’t the spike in nyc deaths be inflated due to the standard operating procedure of using mechanical ventilators for which 9 of 10 patients die [1]? Wasn’t there a big fuss (several articles posted here) about how mechanical ventilators were overused when less invasive methods produced better outcomes, therefore reducing mortality[2]?
[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-in-10-covid-19-patients-on-ventilators-died-in-study https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-22/almost-9-...
[2] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ventilators-specia/as-virus-advances-doctors-rethink-rush-to-ventilate-idUSKCN2251PE https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-ventil...
- briefcomment 6y agoSeems like it should be explored further
- tsbinz 6y agoThat's kind of incompatible with the critique 2 posts up. They asked if we could have "false positive" deaths because dead people with covid-like symptoms are labeled as covid deaths even when they are not tested (e.g. after dying at home). The people on ventilators were ones in hospitals that were treated as covid patients, those were likely to be tested - and the problem that people on ventilators have a low chance to make it is specific to covid (which is why we are seeing this, ventilators have existed for a long time, usually they don't kill people which is why it became standard operating procedure, unfortunately with covid they seem to trigger something bad ...)