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But in reality, the number of excess deaths compared to the average year, or compared to last year, is well above the counted number of COVID-19 deaths. Anecdot

But in reality, the number of excess deaths compared to the average year, or compared to last year, is well above the counted number of COVID-19 deaths. Anecdotal claims about deaths being miscounted as COVID-19 don’t really stand up to this. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/27/upshot/coronavirus-deaths-new-york-city.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/27/upshot/corona... https://twitter.com/lymanstoneky/status/1252616296891465729 https://twitter.com/lymanstoneky/status/1252616296891465729 The level of deaths/week we are seeing is like nothing that has occurred in decades of recorded vital statistics. (The 1968 flu pandemic shows on the 2nd chart, but is small beans compared to COVID).

Gibbon1 7y ago
For those that are paywalled, in New York the excess deaths of 6 times normal. You can't make that go away by claiming normal deaths are being misclassified.
- cpwright 7y ago
  There are likely deaths that are collateral damage. Fewer people are going to hospitals for heart attacks and strokes. It seems unlikely that we actually have fewer heart attacks, but people are scared of the hospital - so don't go and are more likely to die. I am in the end the lockdown camp; but even if we allow businesses to open, many people will still be legitimately worried or scared and stay home even when it is something important like medical care.
  - aw1621107 7y ago
    > There are likely deaths that are collateral damage. Fewer people are going to hospitals for heart attacks and strokes. And on the flip side, there are people who might have died of things like car accidents if the pandemic and subsequent lockdown had not taken place.