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Real end to end encryption? No? Must be a hard problem that other people have solved.

• thekyle 6y ago
  To my knowledge there is no zoom competitor that has end to end encryption and allows people to join a call from landlines.
  • jxy 6y ago
    bluejeans? Skype for business? Webex?
    • cbm-vic-20 6y ago
      How are they encrypting the telephone connections?
    • bearcobra 6y ago
      All those services don't encrypt connections if they include PTSN phone calls or other features. Example: https://help.webex.com/en-us/WBX44739/What-Does-End-to-End-Encryption-Do https://help.webex.com/en-us/WBX44739/What-Does-End-to-End-E...
  • bscphil 6y ago
    Are there services that have opportunistic end-to-end encryption that is only disabled if someone is calling in from a landline? That seems vastly superior.
    • j88439h84 6y ago
      Isn't that what Zoom does?
      • bscphil 6y ago
        No. As of a month ago, anyway, Zoom did not have e2e encryption for video calls.
• upofadown 6y ago
  Zooms end to end encryption is pointless because they can get at the data by performing an assertive action. Their competitors (at least the ones I have heard of) can also get at the data by performing an assertive action. The difference is probably that the people designing the Zoom knew that you can't have secure E2EE without customer access to the client source and an awkward identity verification requirement. So they didn't bother to pretend. As a result they probably saved themselves a lot of work.