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> But if you disagree I'd really like to know why. I'll take a stab at it. I agree with you that Fox actually does have some decent news output at various poi

by untog 7y ago

> But if you disagree I'd really like to know why. I'll take a stab at it. I agree with you that Fox actually does have some decent news output at various points in the day (dearly departed Shep...), but I simply don't think that CNN has any equivalent to the Fox opinion programming. MSNBC comes closer but it still doesn't have hosts spouting outright disinformation on a regular basis.

bargl 7y ago
Who do you like on CNN? Any specific shows you like over there? I named Don Lemon, but I also really dislike a lot of what Anderson Cooper talks about. Shep was awful. What alternate news sources do you like to go to for unbiased news? What forms of disinformation have you found? And I'd like to classify disinformation as a situation you feel they are being purposeful about misinformation. I believe we're both going from the same definition but it's always good to be clear upfront.
- alasdair_ 7y ago
  > What forms of disinformation have you found? One example is the remarkably-common “mistake” of putting a “(D)” after the name of an obscure congressman or senator caught committing some crime or other, when the person in question was a Republican. Or the recent coronavirus coverage e.g. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/490776-74-journalism-professors-accuse-fox-news-owners-of-spreading-coronavirus%3famp https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/4907...
  - bargl 7y ago
    On the topic of COVID-19 I can do nothing but agree with you. My biggest complaint about reporting at CNN on this topic is that they use Total numbers sometimes and Per-Capita others. Stick with one please. For example. We have done more testing in the USA than in Italy, we also have more deaths than Italy. When you look at Per-Capita the opposite is true. When you mix and match you can say, no we do more daily testing but THEY have more per capita deaths. All of this is when I looked a few days ago, it's possible that there will be a period that we have the highest per-capita in one and not the other etc. But all of that tells a story when you look at it holistically. Fox seems to be instead trying to balance Economics with the health implications. Which is a very important thing for us to consider and we as a world do with things like the seasonal Flu etc. Mislabeling is ridiculous. My frustration came from their treatment of Yang and Gabbard. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/476951-cnbc-uses-wrong-photos-for-andrew-yang-tulsi-gabbard https://thehill.com/homenews/media/476951-cnbc-uses-wrong-ph.... Yes I know CNBC not CNN, but I've spent 30 minutes writing this and I've seen similar things at CNN. Anyway thanks for your reply.

by untog 7y ago

bargl 7y ago

Who do you like on CNN? Any specific shows you like over there? I named Don Lemon, but I also really dislike a lot of what Anderson Cooper talks about. Shep was awful. What alternate news sources do you like to go to for unbiased news? What forms of disinformation have you found? And I'd like to classify disinformation as a situation you feel they are being purposeful about misinformation. I believe we're both going from the same definition but it's always good to be clear upfront.

alasdair_ 7y ago
> What forms of disinformation have you found? One example is the remarkably-common “mistake” of putting a “(D)” after the name of an obscure congressman or senator caught committing some crime or other, when the person in question was a Republican. Or the recent coronavirus coverage e.g. https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/490776-74-journalism-professors-accuse-fox-news-owners-of-spreading-coronavirus%3famp https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/4907...
- bargl 7y ago
  On the topic of COVID-19 I can do nothing but agree with you. My biggest complaint about reporting at CNN on this topic is that they use Total numbers sometimes and Per-Capita others. Stick with one please. For example. We have done more testing in the USA than in Italy, we also have more deaths than Italy. When you look at Per-Capita the opposite is true. When you mix and match you can say, no we do more daily testing but THEY have more per capita deaths. All of this is when I looked a few days ago, it's possible that there will be a period that we have the highest per-capita in one and not the other etc. But all of that tells a story when you look at it holistically. Fox seems to be instead trying to balance Economics with the health implications. Which is a very important thing for us to consider and we as a world do with things like the seasonal Flu etc. Mislabeling is ridiculous. My frustration came from their treatment of Yang and Gabbard. https://thehill.com/homenews/media/476951-cnbc-uses-wrong-photos-for-andrew-yang-tulsi-gabbard https://thehill.com/homenews/media/476951-cnbc-uses-wrong-ph.... Yes I know CNBC not CNN, but I've spent 30 minutes writing this and I've seen similar things at CNN. Anyway thanks for your reply.