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It has not. Oregon has had vote by mail exclusively for over twenty years and, in the 2016, with over two million votes cast, 54 problematic votes (according to

by Frondo 6y ago

It has not. Oregon has had vote by mail exclusively for over twenty years and, in the 2016, with over two million votes cast, 54 problematic votes (according to an audit done by the then-republican secretary of state.)

giantg2 6y ago
54 across the state is good. In Philly, we have about 6k dead people voting in presidential elections.
- karatestomp 6y ago
  I can't find any evidence of this with a search. Was this a joke? I can't tell.
  - giantg2 6y ago
    It's not that they are fraudulent, but that people are voting as someone who may have the same name as them. The 6k article was probably a decade ago. This is a 2k article more recently. Maybe that's progess? https://www.phillyvoice.com/6abc-reports-it-found-dead-people-voting-philly/ https://www.phillyvoice.com/6abc-reports-it-found-dead-peopl...
    - karatestomp 6y ago
      That article doesn't appear to support 2k fraudulent votes, and may not even support a much smaller number. I gather a news organization put together a story claiming 2k maybe-fraudulent votes, then were asked to provide some examples for the election commission to look into, selected 20, those 20 were investigated, and zero were found to be related to election fraud.
      - giantg2 6y ago
        Like my comment said, it's not that they are fraudulent. The voting system is inaccurate (leaving dead people on the roll and letting others vote as them accidently). We should modernization the voting system to reduce these inaccuracies. Photo ID is a cheaper bandaid. Here is a non-comprehensive list that show a number of the know offenses. Keep in mind that most places don't do much monitoring for voter fraud (why else would they have thousands of dead people still listed). https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
    - rovolo 6y ago
      For those who don't want to click through, this is the thesis of the article: > People with similar names — often a relative of the deceased voter — signed the poll book in the wrong spot, Schmidt said. In no case, he said, did the living voter then cast another vote under his or her actual name. > Such mistakes most frequently occur when a deceased voter's name appears at the top or bottom of a poll book, Schmidt said.

by Frondo 6y ago

giantg2 6y ago

54 across the state is good. In Philly, we have about 6k dead people voting in presidential elections.

karatestomp 6y ago
I can't find any evidence of this with a search. Was this a joke? I can't tell.
- giantg2 6y ago
  It's not that they are fraudulent, but that people are voting as someone who may have the same name as them. The 6k article was probably a decade ago. This is a 2k article more recently. Maybe that's progess? https://www.phillyvoice.com/6abc-reports-it-found-dead-people-voting-philly/ https://www.phillyvoice.com/6abc-reports-it-found-dead-peopl...
  - karatestomp 6y ago
    That article doesn't appear to support 2k fraudulent votes, and may not even support a much smaller number. I gather a news organization put together a story claiming 2k maybe-fraudulent votes, then were asked to provide some examples for the election commission to look into, selected 20, those 20 were investigated, and zero were found to be related to election fraud.
    - giantg2 6y ago
      Like my comment said, it's not that they are fraudulent. The voting system is inaccurate (leaving dead people on the roll and letting others vote as them accidently). We should modernization the voting system to reduce these inaccuracies. Photo ID is a cheaper bandaid. Here is a non-comprehensive list that show a number of the know offenses. Keep in mind that most places don't do much monitoring for voter fraud (why else would they have thousands of dead people still listed). https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud
  - rovolo 6y ago
    For those who don't want to click through, this is the thesis of the article: > People with similar names — often a relative of the deceased voter — signed the poll book in the wrong spot, Schmidt said. In no case, he said, did the living voter then cast another vote under his or her actual name. > Such mistakes most frequently occur when a deceased voter's name appears at the top or bottom of a poll book, Schmidt said.