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My friend, I'm sorry, but you really think this explains anything? As others have pointed out in this thread, this is for people who want this to be an understo

My friend, I'm sorry, but you really think this explains anything? As others have pointed out in this thread, this is for people who want this to be an understood phenomenon and are willing to turn their brain off to get there. Navy pilots can recognize planes and balloons, they aren't wowed and mystified by such objects. This video is just weak.

catalogia 6y ago
> Navy pilots can recognize planes and balloons, they aren't wowed and mystified by such objects. I think you should consider the possibility that they are deliberately deceiving you. That certainly seems to be the case with the 'go fast' video. Public information on the gimbal camera equipment is lacking, but if the USN is willing to lie about the go fast video, they'd be willing to mislead people about the others as well.
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- erdos4d 6y ago
  I just answered another post in a similar manner, but you bring it up, so I will reply to you as well. Why would the US navy want anyone to believe there is something buzzing about that they couldn't identify, and according to the pilots account, could literally smoke their ass? Have you noticed them saying such things in the past? I have not. Also, I am 100% sure they DO NOT want you to believe such a thing exists. In my experience, they want you to believe they could handle absolutely anything, that they are the baddest dudes who ever walked the earth, and you are 100% safe with them protecting you. Or something to that effect. Seriously, why would they lie about this? Does this position square up with any of their interests? Skepticism is fine, but not when it literally runs afoul of basic common sense.
  - catalogia 6y ago
    > Why would the US navy want anyone to believe there is something buzzing about that they couldn't identify, and according to the pilots account, could literally smoke their ass? Maybe they think people will assume they're lying about skunkworks type technology, when in reality they're just lying about a weather balloon. This was my original assumption, that they were teasing the existence of radically new technology. However I think the conclusion that the gofast video actually shows a balloon is pretty damn airtight.
hindsightbias 6y ago
Your multiple appeals to authority are just that. If you can't debunk the math, take some.
- erdos4d 6y ago
  Yes, I do find a bunch of navy pilots to be far better qualified to judge the object than this Mick West guy. They are literally trained to recognize this exact sort of object and motion. I guess they are wrong though cause they didn't make a video that says what a certain segment wants to hear.

catalogia 6y ago

> Navy pilots can recognize planes and balloons, they aren't wowed and mystified by such objects. I think you should consider the possibility that they are deliberately deceiving you. That certainly seems to be the case with the 'go fast' video. Public information on the gimbal camera equipment is lacking, but if the USN is willing to lie about the go fast video, they'd be willing to mislead people about the others as well.

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erdos4d 6y ago
I just answered another post in a similar manner, but you bring it up, so I will reply to you as well. Why would the US navy want anyone to believe there is something buzzing about that they couldn't identify, and according to the pilots account, could literally smoke their ass? Have you noticed them saying such things in the past? I have not. Also, I am 100% sure they DO NOT want you to believe such a thing exists. In my experience, they want you to believe they could handle absolutely anything, that they are the baddest dudes who ever walked the earth, and you are 100% safe with them protecting you. Or something to that effect. Seriously, why would they lie about this? Does this position square up with any of their interests? Skepticism is fine, but not when it literally runs afoul of basic common sense.
- catalogia 6y ago
  > Why would the US navy want anyone to believe there is something buzzing about that they couldn't identify, and according to the pilots account, could literally smoke their ass? Maybe they think people will assume they're lying about skunkworks type technology, when in reality they're just lying about a weather balloon. This was my original assumption, that they were teasing the existence of radically new technology. However I think the conclusion that the gofast video actually shows a balloon is pretty damn airtight.

hindsightbias 6y ago

Your multiple appeals to authority are just that. If you can't debunk the math, take some.

erdos4d 6y ago
Yes, I do find a bunch of navy pilots to be far better qualified to judge the object than this Mick West guy. They are literally trained to recognize this exact sort of object and motion. I guess they are wrong though cause they didn't make a video that says what a certain segment wants to hear.