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OBL was "murdered"? Is that your view?

by JPKab 7y ago

selimthegrim 7y ago
Forget that part, since when do doctors get abused in Pakistan (except in the brawl by lawyers recently)? What’s a basis for this speculation?
- mirimir 7y ago
  Huh. I thought that this was common knowledge. > The Taliban began assassinating polio workers the year after the CIA used a vaccination campaign for hepatitis B, not polio, to identify Osama bin Laden's hideout in Abbottabad. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/03/150303-polio-pakistan-islamic-state-refugees-vaccination-health/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/03/150303-polio... > There has been opposition to such immunisation drives from some powerful clerics while a fake CIA vaccination campaign, which helped to locate Osama Bin Laden in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, is thought to have had a detrimental effect as well. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18868267 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18868267
  - selimthegrim 7y ago
    Yeah but it's quite a leap from polio vaccinators getting waxed and Shakil Afridi being jailed to "Doctors have a bad reputation in Pakistan" and then imply it's because it's a Muslim country. Many (even conservative) parents send their daughters to publicly financed medical colleges often to increase their marriage prospects. Does that sound like a thing they would do if doctors had a bad rap? Doctors came out and criticized the clerics for lack of adherence to social distancing, I didn't see anyone call them un-Islamic for standing their ground.
    - mirimir 7y ago
      Maybe so. But I never claimed that it was mainstream in Pakistan. Just that it might account for this in ramraj07's comment:[0] > Further, there's a great amount of scrutiny into whether anyone's sick (see the reports of doctors getting beaten up even by the cops). Perhaps they could share a link about that. 0) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23005076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23005076
dang 7y ago
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mirimir 7y ago
Sorry. I should have put that in scare quotes. And to be clear, I'm not arguing that he was murdered. I was just pointing out that some Muslims consider that he was murdered. I mean, the doctor who led the CIA to him is still in jail, and likely will be for the rest of his life. And the lawyer who defended him was murdered by the Taliban.

OBL was "murdered"? Is that your view?

by JPKab 7y ago

OBL was "murdered"? Is that your view?

Forget that part, since when do doctors get abused in Pakistan (except in the brawl by lawyers recently)? What’s a basis for this speculation?

mirimir 7y ago
Huh. I thought that this was common knowledge. > The Taliban began assassinating polio workers the year after the CIA used a vaccination campaign for hepatitis B, not polio, to identify Osama bin Laden's hideout in Abbottabad. https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/03/150303-polio-pakistan-islamic-state-refugees-vaccination-health/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/03/150303-polio... > There has been opposition to such immunisation drives from some powerful clerics while a fake CIA vaccination campaign, which helped to locate Osama Bin Laden in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, is thought to have had a detrimental effect as well. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18868267 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-18868267
- selimthegrim 7y ago
  Yeah but it's quite a leap from polio vaccinators getting waxed and Shakil Afridi being jailed to "Doctors have a bad reputation in Pakistan" and then imply it's because it's a Muslim country. Many (even conservative) parents send their daughters to publicly financed medical colleges often to increase their marriage prospects. Does that sound like a thing they would do if doctors had a bad rap? Doctors came out and criticized the clerics for lack of adherence to social distancing, I didn't see anyone call them un-Islamic for standing their ground.
  - mirimir 7y ago
    Maybe so. But I never claimed that it was mainstream in Pakistan. Just that it might account for this in ramraj07's comment:[0] > Further, there's a great amount of scrutiny into whether anyone's sick (see the reports of doctors getting beaten up even by the cops). Perhaps they could share a link about that. 0) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23005076 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23005076

dang 7y ago

"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

mirimir 7y ago

Sorry. I should have put that in scare quotes. And to be clear, I'm not arguing that he was murdered. I was just pointing out that some Muslims consider that he was murdered. I mean, the doctor who led the CIA to him is still in jail, and likely will be for the rest of his life. And the lawyer who defended him was murdered by the Taliban.