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> A better question from everyone outside the US: what the flying f is with the huuuuuge (accounting for estimated no. of infected and other factors) number of

> A better question from everyone outside the US: what the flying f is with the huuuuuge (accounting for estimated no. of infected and other factors) number of deaths in the USA??!!? That's only true if you don't know what "per capita" means. So far the US has 172 death per 1M population. That's better than other countries with supposedly better healthcare including: - Belgium - France - Spain - Italy - UK - Netherlands - Sweden - Ireland - Switzerland And many more. > US stats look worrying for everyone on Earth I'm more worried about people's inability to understand the difference between stats and absolute numbers specially on this site where we're supposed to know better.

saalweachter 6y ago
NYC is currently at 1462 deaths per million.
- patrickaljord 6y ago
  The whole country of Spain is at 510 deaths per million. How high do you think their biggest hot spot is?
  - interestica 6y ago
    I think the point is that treating the USA as some sort of unified region for statistical purposes is in itself problematic.
    - saalweachter 6y ago
      The thing that worries me about NYC statistics is that they're awful, and we now have serum tests that indicate that -- at best -- we're about 1/3 of the way through. (Current serum tests indicate 20-25% of NYC has caught it, current R0 estimates indicate that 70-85% would need to catch it for it to burn itself out without any additional measures.) This puts reasonable estimates of "how bad can it get?" at north of 5000 deaths per million, if we don't properly contain it. This, really, is the new information we're getting out of US numbers.
  - saalweachter 6y ago
    Community of Madrid looks to be at 1228, based on official statistics. There are other place also doing poorly, some as badly as NYC, maybe a little better, maybe a little worse, but right now, until someone screws up worse, NYC is currently in the running for "worst COVID-19 death rate in a major city".
simion314 6y ago
I think it would be more honest if US statistics would be split per state or social/economic region otherwise you I would complain that you also are in the same catherogy with the ones you accuse.

saalweachter 6y ago

NYC is currently at 1462 deaths per million.

patrickaljord 6y ago
The whole country of Spain is at 510 deaths per million. How high do you think their biggest hot spot is?
- interestica 6y ago
  I think the point is that treating the USA as some sort of unified region for statistical purposes is in itself problematic.
  - saalweachter 6y ago
    The thing that worries me about NYC statistics is that they're awful, and we now have serum tests that indicate that -- at best -- we're about 1/3 of the way through. (Current serum tests indicate 20-25% of NYC has caught it, current R0 estimates indicate that 70-85% would need to catch it for it to burn itself out without any additional measures.) This puts reasonable estimates of "how bad can it get?" at north of 5000 deaths per million, if we don't properly contain it. This, really, is the new information we're getting out of US numbers.
- saalweachter 6y ago
  Community of Madrid looks to be at 1228, based on official statistics. There are other place also doing poorly, some as badly as NYC, maybe a little better, maybe a little worse, but right now, until someone screws up worse, NYC is currently in the running for "worst COVID-19 death rate in a major city".

simion314 6y ago

I think it would be more honest if US statistics would be split per state or social/economic region otherwise you I would complain that you also are in the same catherogy with the ones you accuse.