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I can believe it when a single confirmed case lands almost a thousand people in quarantine. There's not just the fear of getting the virus, there's the fear of
by JCharante 7y ago
I can believe it when a single confirmed case lands almost a thousand people in quarantine. There's not just the fear of getting the virus, there's the fear of being sent off to a quarantine facility for two weeks if you are in contact with enough people that you end up on an F0's F1 list. And then if you're F2 you still must stay at home, and your neighborhood police ward will check up on you (and the neighborhood snitch on the payroll probably will keep an eye out for you too).
There are still villages under lockdown and just a month ago a heavily trafficked road was locked down with its inhabitants stuck at home just two kilometers from the center of the capital city.
If a Michigan style protest happened here everyone at the protest would be declared F1 because there's bound to be an F0 in the crowd, everyone the protesters have come into contact with with, including staff at businesses or restaurants, co workers, delivery drivers, other diners at the same restaurants, other people shopping at the same store at the same time as them will be declared F2 and have to stay at home. Then they will do three more rounds of recursive contact tracing and monitor those people in case others start showing symptoms.
I've had a dozen friends wait out quarantine at military camps and two had their quarantine period extended when their roommates started showing symptoms (but ended up not being positive). Heck if you go to a pharmacy to buy cold or flu medication the pharmacy will report you to the police so they can monitor your symptoms (after patient 247 infamously had a fever, took medication, then went to a bar to celebrate beating his fever).
It's almost a police state with the perfect set of tools to fight the virus, and the success of the government has been really effective in getting people to feel patriotic. That does provide perverse incentives going forward. We can hope they remain truthful. At the end of the day we know that the measures that have been undertaken have been some of the best in the world and that not everyone in other countries would tolerate such measures.
Also, please download the Bluezone app. This plea goes out to any other expats or immigrants in the country. We need contact tracing to be ready for the next wave.
- moltar 7y agoGreat info, didn’t know about the rating system.
- JCharante 7y agoYes there is the F0-F5 system. If you download ncovi or the smart city Hanoi app, you can see on a map where F0 have visited, and where F0 and F1 are (F1 are in clusters because they're at quarantine camps). Originally they used to publish data on F2 but a few weeks ago they started only updating F0-F1. Additionally you can view https://ncov.moh.gov.vn https://ncov.moh.gov.vn to see the status of all patients, see how many F1 and F2 there are, and see how many people are being quarantined. You can also enable notifications to get a notification whenever there's an announcement (which is usually for when they are announcing nee cases or have news related to lockdowns)
- longnguyen 7y agoNot sure things get better now but there were a few security issues with Bluezone app. I would not recommend installing it at the moment