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That last can be framed in the opposite direction: America has stronger company rights. American companies are more free to not pay a worker who is delivering

by T-hawk 6y ago

That last can be framed in the opposite direction: America has stronger company rights. American companies are more free to not pay a worker who is delivering no work on sick or parental leave, and to end employment of a worker they no longer want to employ. American health providers have more right to gain profits from their services. American companies are generally less burdened by things like VAT tracking and customs enforcement and silly cookie disclosures. There's a reason that the FAANG industry dominators all came from American origins, as well as those of yesteryear like IBM and Intel, or in other industries like Ford or Disney or Visa.

amiga_500 6y ago
companies are not people, so this amounts to weak rights for people. the beloved constitution was about the rights of people, yet they have weak rights in practice. I know you are kind of agreeing, but from a diff perspective.
mantap 6y ago
The USA has one of the most insane systems on the planet. There's 50 states plus DC. Each with their own laws which apply to anybody selling in that state, so if a business is selling in 50 states then they need to follow 50 sets of laws, and that's before we get to smaller jurisdictions. The tax system is byzantine and nightmarish even by the standards of tax systems. What the USA has going for it is that it was very far away from its enemies during WW2, and so while European countries had to rebuild everything, the US economy went into overdrive. Plus it's the 3rd most populous country in the world and that has advantages. It's certainly nothing to do with simplicity of doing business.
effie 6y ago
American companies in general have a lot of visible and objectionable protections, that is true. But your example, except for maybe Amazon, doesn't really exemplify this - these companies are successful for various other reasons such as U.S. winning both WWII and the cold war, American market size and world power status, huge government investments into semiconductors in 50's, embargoes on technology exports, lots of wealthy investors willing to invest in American companies. All this and other things helped in various proportions. Maybe Amazon got so big and starved the competition partly because the management treats the workers like serfs and is able to push prices down, but the others I do not really see how they benefit from weak employee rights.

by T-hawk 6y ago

amiga_500 6y ago

companies are not people, so this amounts to weak rights for people. the beloved constitution was about the rights of people, yet they have weak rights in practice. I know you are kind of agreeing, but from a diff perspective.

mantap 6y ago

The USA has one of the most insane systems on the planet. There's 50 states plus DC. Each with their own laws which apply to anybody selling in that state, so if a business is selling in 50 states then they need to follow 50 sets of laws, and that's before we get to smaller jurisdictions. The tax system is byzantine and nightmarish even by the standards of tax systems. What the USA has going for it is that it was very far away from its enemies during WW2, and so while European countries had to rebuild everything, the US economy went into overdrive. Plus it's the 3rd most populous country in the world and that has advantages. It's certainly nothing to do with simplicity of doing business.

effie 6y ago

American companies in general have a lot of visible and objectionable protections, that is true. But your example, except for maybe Amazon, doesn't really exemplify this - these companies are successful for various other reasons such as U.S. winning both WWII and the cold war, American market size and world power status, huge government investments into semiconductors in 50's, embargoes on technology exports, lots of wealthy investors willing to invest in American companies. All this and other things helped in various proportions. Maybe Amazon got so big and starved the competition partly because the management treats the workers like serfs and is able to push prices down, but the others I do not really see how they benefit from weak employee rights.