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I can speak to a few examples specifically. It's planting season now, and high business for nurseries. In Santa Clara County, they're closed by fiat. Lowe's, Ho

I can speak to a few examples specifically. It's planting season now, and high business for nurseries. In Santa Clara County, they're closed by fiat. Lowe's, Home Depot, ACE hardware sell essential things (plumbing supplies, etc), so they get to remain open, in-store nurseries and all. So, if I want tomatoes, I have to brave the crowds at Lowe's instead of hopping out to my local nursery which is rarely densely populated even in good times.

brucer 6y ago
I believe nurseries are open again: https://summerwindsnursery.com/ca/promotions/curbside-pickup-delivery https://summerwindsnursery.com/ca/promotions/curbside-pickup...
- gwittel 6y ago
  Summerwinds got closed and has to do home delivery only per the site. After an outcry Yamagami's re-opened for customers with limited hours (rate limiting, etc) this past weekend. Not sure if Summerwinds is going to get the same reprieve. Neither is setup for online orders though. Summerwinds has a limited set of things online so you have to call. From what I've heard its very hard to get through on the phone because they're overwhelmed. I wish I could just e-mail a list and wait a week; but they're not doing that either.
  - walterbell 6y ago
    Outcry from taxpayers to city officials or store management? Was that done by calling or emailing?
geomark 6y ago
Where I live (not the US) the same thing is happening, except that although the big stores are open they cannot sell nonessential items. They have those aisles roped off.
- favorited 6y ago
  That's what's supposed to be happening in CA right now. The 2nd shelter-in-place order stated that, even if you are an essential business, you were not allowed to operate non-essential components of your business.
  - triceratops 6y ago
    I'd be pretty pissed off about roped-off aisles. When other people in the store aren't very vigilant about maintaining social distancing, having the additional aisles to escape into is a big deal.
    - favorited 6y ago
      They could still use aisles for transit, but if you're a hardware store with a garden area, you'd just need to close that one section. Though I'm sure you could make a case that someone gardening in their yard is essential, because it reduces their grocery store trips if they're growing food.
greendude29 6y ago
I mean, that makes perfect sense. Your local nursery is not selling essential good like you admitted. What is the logic of letting them be open? It is very difficult to produce a perfect list of all spaces and businesses that might be "safe"; hence the only practical way of doing this is by producing a whitelist of those businesses that can remain open. Essential services is a great demarcator of that whitelist.
pests 6y ago
This is hilarious to me. In Michigan big box stores can't sell garden items or seeds. You can still get them from any other retailer that was open. People were protesting.
- frockington1 6y ago
  Come down south to Ohio, we've somehow managed to escape many of the zealotry on both sides. We'll have most retail open by May 12th if you need anything

brucer 6y ago

I believe nurseries are open again: https://summerwindsnursery.com/ca/promotions/curbside-pickup-delivery https://summerwindsnursery.com/ca/promotions/curbside-pickup...

gwittel 6y ago
Summerwinds got closed and has to do home delivery only per the site. After an outcry Yamagami's re-opened for customers with limited hours (rate limiting, etc) this past weekend. Not sure if Summerwinds is going to get the same reprieve. Neither is setup for online orders though. Summerwinds has a limited set of things online so you have to call. From what I've heard its very hard to get through on the phone because they're overwhelmed. I wish I could just e-mail a list and wait a week; but they're not doing that either.
- walterbell 6y ago
  Outcry from taxpayers to city officials or store management? Was that done by calling or emailing?

geomark 6y ago

Where I live (not the US) the same thing is happening, except that although the big stores are open they cannot sell nonessential items. They have those aisles roped off.

favorited 6y ago
That's what's supposed to be happening in CA right now. The 2nd shelter-in-place order stated that, even if you are an essential business, you were not allowed to operate non-essential components of your business.
- triceratops 6y ago
  I'd be pretty pissed off about roped-off aisles. When other people in the store aren't very vigilant about maintaining social distancing, having the additional aisles to escape into is a big deal.
  - favorited 6y ago
    They could still use aisles for transit, but if you're a hardware store with a garden area, you'd just need to close that one section. Though I'm sure you could make a case that someone gardening in their yard is essential, because it reduces their grocery store trips if they're growing food.

greendude29 6y ago

I mean, that makes perfect sense. Your local nursery is not selling essential good like you admitted. What is the logic of letting them be open? It is very difficult to produce a perfect list of all spaces and businesses that might be "safe"; hence the only practical way of doing this is by producing a whitelist of those businesses that can remain open. Essential services is a great demarcator of that whitelist.

pests 6y ago

This is hilarious to me. In Michigan big box stores can't sell garden items or seeds. You can still get them from any other retailer that was open. People were protesting.

frockington1 6y ago
Come down south to Ohio, we've somehow managed to escape many of the zealotry on both sides. We'll have most retail open by May 12th if you need anything