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Are we traveling in a police state?

21 points by jedwhite 16y ago

ck2 16y ago
I'm surprised they didn't mention this: http://cs.trains.com/TRCCS/forums/p/188504/2059127.aspx#2059120 http://cs.trains.com/TRCCS/forums/p/188504/2059127.aspx#2059... Few people realize the TSA is randomly searching people at bus stations, train stations and closing bridges for car searches now. There is zero effectiveness to this tactic which is even named to demonstrate their point that it's "just for show" (theater) visible intermodal protection. It's almost like they are testing the waters to see how far they can go before someone says something. When exactly is mainstream news going to start covering these events?
- JunkDNA 16y ago
  Came here to say just that. I watched them handcuff a guy who tried to get out of line at the Amtrak station in Philly. They had a K9 unit there sniffing bags and the dog decided his McDonald's bag was especially interesting. He left the line and tried to discard it, at which time the agents went ape and threw him on a table and cuffed him. These agents were wearing body armor and carrying firearms, so I suspect they were Amtrak police, not TSA. There is a high likelihood I'll be searched one afternoon on my way home from work, since they do about 1 out of 10 people.
phlux 16y ago
yes.
wil2k 16y ago
Yes And why is it possible? Because the whole thing regarding to the state, laws and your rights, etc. goes waay deeper that most people know. That's why power can be abused. Summarized: Freedom - The NAME Game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAeqwGPe-y0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAeqwGPe-y0 More elaborate: Choosing Freedom: (intro) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9gRNPWf6s&playnext=1&list=PL09010AA5935064C2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9gRNPWf6s&playnext=1&#3... (actual) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOXoSmq3ZI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOXoSmq3ZI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxq2WPMh3Q4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxq2WPMh3Q4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSxizdBNG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSxizdBNG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QlixCmNrJI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QlixCmNrJI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ4dDem5xTI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ4dDem5xTI (England) Magistrate fails to prove Juristiction - Freeman Dismisses case.pt.1 & 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7yaqBFCh0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7yaqBFCh0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkn6itUI4yA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkn6itUI4yA

21 points by jedwhite 16y ago

ck2 16y ago

I'm surprised they didn't mention this: http://cs.trains.com/TRCCS/forums/p/188504/2059127.aspx#2059120 http://cs.trains.com/TRCCS/forums/p/188504/2059127.aspx#2059... Few people realize the TSA is randomly searching people at bus stations, train stations and closing bridges for car searches now. There is zero effectiveness to this tactic which is even named to demonstrate their point that it's "just for show" (theater) visible intermodal protection. It's almost like they are testing the waters to see how far they can go before someone says something. When exactly is mainstream news going to start covering these events?

JunkDNA 16y ago
Came here to say just that. I watched them handcuff a guy who tried to get out of line at the Amtrak station in Philly. They had a K9 unit there sniffing bags and the dog decided his McDonald's bag was especially interesting. He left the line and tried to discard it, at which time the agents went ape and threw him on a table and cuffed him. These agents were wearing body armor and carrying firearms, so I suspect they were Amtrak police, not TSA. There is a high likelihood I'll be searched one afternoon on my way home from work, since they do about 1 out of 10 people.

phlux 16y ago

yes.

wil2k 16y ago

Yes And why is it possible? Because the whole thing regarding to the state, laws and your rights, etc. goes waay deeper that most people know. That's why power can be abused. Summarized: Freedom - The NAME Game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAeqwGPe-y0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAeqwGPe-y0 More elaborate: Choosing Freedom: (intro) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9gRNPWf6s&playnext=1&list=PL09010AA5935064C2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J9gRNPWf6s&playnext=1&#3... (actual) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOXoSmq3ZI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szOXoSmq3ZI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxq2WPMh3Q4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxq2WPMh3Q4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSxizdBNG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eSxizdBNG4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QlixCmNrJI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QlixCmNrJI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ4dDem5xTI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZ4dDem5xTI (England) Magistrate fails to prove Juristiction - Freeman Dismisses case.pt.1 & 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7yaqBFCh0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7yaqBFCh0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkn6itUI4yA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkn6itUI4yA