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All the GDPR did was make it harder for the smaller players. It was a massive win for Facebook and Google.

bzb3 6y ago
That's how regulation works mostly. Even if the intentions are noble, this has happened so many times that politicians should know better.
- llcoolv 6y ago
  Come on. Intentions are never noble. All politicians have their respective owners. Be it officially through lobby groups or unofficially by local oligarchs without middle men.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    Too many, yes, but far from all. At least our politicians are less aligned to lobby groups than the companies behind those groups, be they small or Google-sized.
  - aguyfromnb 6y ago
    >All politicians have their respective owners. Who owns you, or do you consider yourself immune?
    - llcoolv 6y ago
      Am I a career politician? But actually you might be right - just noticed Massie[0]. If he was to act like a typical politician he would let the food shortage strike and only then go solving it to gather extra points. Rand Paul also seems to have something like a conscience. Guess when such people would have any say on real matters though. Never. And with nation states still being the main actor, there is no such person in Brussels, unless we count the hell-raising clowns like Korwin-Mikke and Farage who raise hell for the sake of raising hell. 0. https://noqreport.com/2020/04/26/rep-thomas-massie-has-a-plan-to-prevent-the-coming-food-shortage/ https://noqreport.com/2020/04/26/rep-thomas-massie-has-a-pla...
- colejohnson66 6y ago
  So because of past failures, people should never try to improve?
  - searchableguy 6y ago
    This is an absurd argument repeated so many times I don't know at which point you stop to keep falling for bs your politicians and legal systems come up with. We will improve next time. We will improve next time. We will improve next time. Why do you let someone exist after so many times the same? Change the institutions first rather than keep trying with failed engine. The structure. The elections. Power distribution. Changing chasey won't do when the engine and transmission is broken.
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llcoolv 6y ago
Not only. It worked out really well for the new board members a.k.a. GDPR officers a.k.a Politkomisars.
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goto11 6y ago
It is extremely easy to comply with GDPR. Just don't record, retain or sell personally identifiable information.
- cyral 6y ago
  Unless your business is entirely anonymous, it's way more involved than that
- lazyjones 6y ago
  Every company with consumers as customers needs to record and retain such information, for legal and operative reasons.
  - goto11 6y ago
    Sure, but the GDPR requirements for storing essential information is no burden.
    - lazyjones 6y ago
      It is, you still need to document everything in detail, be ready to reply to requests, take care how and where you store data internally etc.
      - M2Ys4U 6y ago
        Oh no! You have to respect your customer's fundamental human rights! What a burden!
        scoot_718 6y ago
        That might have been the initial intent of the GDPR, but it's not the outcome. The problem isn't the human rights, but the bureaucratic, legal and compliance nightmare it creates for small business. IP blocking is easier than mangling every business and technical process to follow it.
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aantix 6y ago
It’s simple - just don’t deal with customers from Europe. The verbiage is so general and far reaching the other way that it’s impossible to know if you’re doing things right. Unless you want to higher a legal team, for small businesses, it’s just not worth it.
- M2Ys4U 6y ago
  Mmmmm, FUD. The GDPR is very clearly written, as far as legislation goes. It's really not hard to understand, unless you're wilfully trying to misunderstand it.
  - scoot_718 6y ago
    It's not about being hard to understand. At all. It's about the work needed to comply vs. the risk vs. the possible benefits. 1. Work to read an interpret legislation means lawyers. If you think you understand a law because it "seems" to be simple to understand you are fucking wrong. Words in law tend to mean different things and refer to other laws, precedents, principles and treaties. 2. The benefits are often small for international businesses. EU customers? Do you care? Probably not. 3. The risks are MASSIVE for breaking the GDPR. So, in cost/benefit, it's a massive "I'm not touching that".

bzb3 6y ago

That's how regulation works mostly. Even if the intentions are noble, this has happened so many times that politicians should know better.

llcoolv 6y ago
Come on. Intentions are never noble. All politicians have their respective owners. Be it officially through lobby groups or unofficially by local oligarchs without middle men.
- anoncake 6y ago
  Too many, yes, but far from all. At least our politicians are less aligned to lobby groups than the companies behind those groups, be they small or Google-sized.
- aguyfromnb 6y ago
  >All politicians have their respective owners. Who owns you, or do you consider yourself immune?
  - llcoolv 6y ago
    Am I a career politician? But actually you might be right - just noticed Massie[0]. If he was to act like a typical politician he would let the food shortage strike and only then go solving it to gather extra points. Rand Paul also seems to have something like a conscience. Guess when such people would have any say on real matters though. Never. And with nation states still being the main actor, there is no such person in Brussels, unless we count the hell-raising clowns like Korwin-Mikke and Farage who raise hell for the sake of raising hell. 0. https://noqreport.com/2020/04/26/rep-thomas-massie-has-a-plan-to-prevent-the-coming-food-shortage/ https://noqreport.com/2020/04/26/rep-thomas-massie-has-a-pla...
colejohnson66 6y ago
So because of past failures, people should never try to improve?
- searchableguy 6y ago
  This is an absurd argument repeated so many times I don't know at which point you stop to keep falling for bs your politicians and legal systems come up with. We will improve next time. We will improve next time. We will improve next time. Why do you let someone exist after so many times the same? Change the institutions first rather than keep trying with failed engine. The structure. The elections. Power distribution. Changing chasey won't do when the engine and transmission is broken.
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llcoolv 6y ago

Not only. It worked out really well for the new board members a.k.a. GDPR officers a.k.a Politkomisars.

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goto11 6y ago

It is extremely easy to comply with GDPR. Just don't record, retain or sell personally identifiable information.

cyral 6y ago
Unless your business is entirely anonymous, it's way more involved than that
lazyjones 6y ago
Every company with consumers as customers needs to record and retain such information, for legal and operative reasons.
- goto11 6y ago
  Sure, but the GDPR requirements for storing essential information is no burden.
  - lazyjones 6y ago
    It is, you still need to document everything in detail, be ready to reply to requests, take care how and where you store data internally etc.
    - M2Ys4U 6y ago
      Oh no! You have to respect your customer's fundamental human rights! What a burden!
      - scoot_718 6y ago
        That might have been the initial intent of the GDPR, but it's not the outcome. The problem isn't the human rights, but the bureaucratic, legal and compliance nightmare it creates for small business. IP blocking is easier than mangling every business and technical process to follow it.
      - 6y ago

aantix 6y ago

It’s simple - just don’t deal with customers from Europe. The verbiage is so general and far reaching the other way that it’s impossible to know if you’re doing things right. Unless you want to higher a legal team, for small businesses, it’s just not worth it.

M2Ys4U 6y ago
Mmmmm, FUD. The GDPR is very clearly written, as far as legislation goes. It's really not hard to understand, unless you're wilfully trying to misunderstand it.
- scoot_718 6y ago
  It's not about being hard to understand. At all. It's about the work needed to comply vs. the risk vs. the possible benefits. 1. Work to read an interpret legislation means lawyers. If you think you understand a law because it "seems" to be simple to understand you are fucking wrong. Words in law tend to mean different things and refer to other laws, precedents, principles and treaties. 2. The benefits are often small for international businesses. EU customers? Do you care? Probably not. 3. The risks are MASSIVE for breaking the GDPR. So, in cost/benefit, it's a massive "I'm not touching that".