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It's easy to fix the app so that it does not need the phone number and to have the app notify the user of the need to get a test instead of having a contact tra

It's easy to fix the app so that it does not need the phone number and to have the app notify the user of the need to get a test instead of having a contact tracer having to double handle the information and ring the user. I believe the fact the app is doing this more about its heritage than any design here, however as an "Australian innovation" we could fix this and avoid the prospect of vulnerable people being rung up by people pretending to be contact tracers, which will happen, and will not be good when it does. Interestingly if the phone number is not stored, the need to store any potentially personal information will probably disappear as well. There's no need to see the source code to recognise this is a problem. Could we at least lobby them to fix this? It would make life easier for the contract tracers and it would mean that people could rely on the app's secure channel, so if a scammer does call them they could confidently tell them where to get off.

fuckthehumanity 7y ago
This is an extremely good point. The potential for misuse through ignorance and misinformation is high. How many "ATO" phone calls have we all received? This service could be genuinely anonymous, although of course under existing laws the government may already have created a back door, and as long as we're using authenticated app stores, nothing is truly untraceable. Having said that, this might very well help us in the right against the virus. I'm quite willing to wait for the source code before installing.
- dghcrypto 7y ago
  On the ATO calls, too many! It's interesting to note a news article about someone spoofing messages to phones claiming they are due to the app already. I actually think the idea of the app isn't a bad one (well at least once the blue tooth issues are properly fixed), but mixing the phone number and the app as a communication channel is already showing how it can cause problems.

fuckthehumanity 7y ago

This is an extremely good point. The potential for misuse through ignorance and misinformation is high. How many "ATO" phone calls have we all received? This service could be genuinely anonymous, although of course under existing laws the government may already have created a back door, and as long as we're using authenticated app stores, nothing is truly untraceable. Having said that, this might very well help us in the right against the virus. I'm quite willing to wait for the source code before installing.

dghcrypto 7y ago
On the ATO calls, too many! It's interesting to note a news article about someone spoofing messages to phones claiming they are due to the app already. I actually think the idea of the app isn't a bad one (well at least once the blue tooth issues are properly fixed), but mixing the phone number and the app as a communication channel is already showing how it can cause problems.