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it's 2020 paper ballots, really? when I can apply for a mortgage, car loan, credit card, and all kinds of other financial legally binding contracts online in

it's 2020 paper ballots, really? when I can apply for a mortgage, car loan, credit card, and all kinds of other financial legally binding contracts online in complete security? I enter my SSN, my credit report is pulled. Why can't I enter my SSN, it gets validated in a database on whether I'm alive/have already voted/am currently a legal citizen eligible to vote, and vote? We have achieved problems way, way, way harder than "securely identify a person based on their SSN and allow them to vote A, B, or C on a subject"

rootusrootus 7y ago
> mortgage, car loan, credit card Notably, none of these things require the actual data to remain anonymous like voting does. That's where all complexity comes from.
- Spivak 7y ago
  Right but I’m more than willing to throw away my own anonymity for the ability. Hell, I literally do it every year by voting absentee. Assuming I’m not alone why not give people the choice and increase voter turnout?
  - smitty1e 7y ago
    I just could not agree with you less here, sir. Your idea is a shortcut to tyranny, and must be peacefully opposed by all holding liberty dear.
pengaru 7y ago
> when I can apply for a mortgage, car loan, credit card, and all kinds of other financial legally binding contracts online in complete security? I enter my SSN, my credit report is pulled. Why can't I enter my SSN, it gets validated in a database on whether I'm alive/have already voted/am currently a legal citizen eligible to vote, and vote? Come back once only you can do all those things on your behalf, and not anyone else having your SSN or other PII.
- Spivak 7y ago
  But that’s a standard that even paper ballots don’t meet. In my state you walk into the polling place, give them your name and address, sign your name, and that’s it. Your polling place is even listed publicly online for anyone who knows your name.
jeromegv 7y ago
"It's 2020" is not an argument. Show us a better system that stays anonymous, I don't care which year is it. All I can find so far is examples of technologies going wrong for voting.

rootusrootus 7y ago

> mortgage, car loan, credit card Notably, none of these things require the actual data to remain anonymous like voting does. That's where all complexity comes from.

Spivak 7y ago
Right but I’m more than willing to throw away my own anonymity for the ability. Hell, I literally do it every year by voting absentee. Assuming I’m not alone why not give people the choice and increase voter turnout?
- smitty1e 7y ago
  I just could not agree with you less here, sir. Your idea is a shortcut to tyranny, and must be peacefully opposed by all holding liberty dear.

pengaru 7y ago

> when I can apply for a mortgage, car loan, credit card, and all kinds of other financial legally binding contracts online in complete security? I enter my SSN, my credit report is pulled. Why can't I enter my SSN, it gets validated in a database on whether I'm alive/have already voted/am currently a legal citizen eligible to vote, and vote? Come back once only you can do all those things on your behalf, and not anyone else having your SSN or other PII.

Spivak 7y ago
But that’s a standard that even paper ballots don’t meet. In my state you walk into the polling place, give them your name and address, sign your name, and that’s it. Your polling place is even listed publicly online for anyone who knows your name.

jeromegv 7y ago

"It's 2020" is not an argument. Show us a better system that stays anonymous, I don't care which year is it. All I can find so far is examples of technologies going wrong for voting.