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Once you start working weekends for a release it usually will become the norm. You can deal with this by putting a price tag on overwork, e.g. two times salary
by Ididntdothis 6y ago
Once you start working weekends for a release it usually will become the norm. You can deal with this by putting a price tag on overwork, e.g. two times salary on weekends or comp time. Don’t give away things for free.
- BurningFrog 6y agoI'm happy to deal with emergencies 1-2 year. Things go wrong sometimes. It's never become the norm where I've worked. So I don't really have advice for that.
- darkerside 6y agoThe reason is that tech leadership is doing what I described. Making clear to involved stakeholders that this is not normal and can't be expected every time. As parent commenter has seen, it doesn't happen automatically.
- BurningFrog 6y agoYeah, I keep hearing that, but - over 10+ jobs - have never experienced it. Maybe I screen out those jobs in my searches. Or they screen me out :) My bigger point is that there are many different SW engineering worlds even in SV. You, and everyone you know, may be in the one you describe. But there are other and better ones out here. One caveat: You may have to "level up" to join some of them.
- darkerside 6y agoI believe you misunderstood my comment. I am not disagreeing with you. There are organizations that properly value people's time and make sure that overwork is both rare and rewarded. I'm lucky enough to work in one. But, even in those organizations, it doesn't just happen by itself. The management in your company is working hard to keep leadership in check and communicate your value. Because if they don't, organizational inertia will result in your team getting more and more work (or losing resources to do your existing work), no matter how great your company is. It's not magic, it's good leadership and management.
- icelancer 6y agoIf employees work on the weekends, just feed them + pay them a premium, and give them an equivalent amount of days off later in the week/month. It's pretty simple.
- Ididntdothis 6y agoIt should be simple but a lot of companies don't seem to understand that principle and prefer free overtime.
- xupybd 6y agoI've never had time off in compensation for time worked. If it's busy enough to require me to work overtime, it's too busy to take leave no matter how much I have built up.
- shostack 6y agoMany do not have the privilege, particularly now, to push back on such requests if they need their paycheck.