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Almost none of my friends have VR. It's still very expensive. Instead we've turned to zoom/hangouts/discord and steam/gog/dolphin emu, etc.

vmception 7y ago
> dolphin emu Is this because everyone is older millennial and Gen X finding nostalgia in the early 2000s? out of curiosity? I'm trying to see why thats an option, unless I'm missing something one of these is not like the other
- andrewzah 7y ago
  I'm 24, for reference. I grew up playing multiplayer games on the gamecube with my brother and friends from school. super smash bros melee, mario party 4-7, mario baseball/tennis/golf/soccer, wario ware inc, kirby air ride. etc. I actually remember trading my xbox classic for my uncle's gamecube because super smash bros looked so much fun. Aside from that, there are a few points as to why dolphin is nice: 1. The roms are "free". I ripped mine a long time ago but there are a lot of rom sites online. Not that I find it unethical since Nintendo would not be making money from used game sales anyway. This is probably the biggest draw because playing a regular indie game means our entire friend group needs to pay $10-$30. I wish all my friends had copies of Gang Beasts or Tabletop Simulator, but they don't. 2. Honestly, these games are still quite fun in 2020. Nothing really captures the mood of gamecube-era mario party games. The new one for the switch is kinda fun, but remains watered-down compared to the originals. Not that I would play these daily but they're fun as a variety mix. As far as other 4-player couch co-op games go, there aren't that many that are that fun that 3 of my friends own. Gang Beasts would be fun... if anyone actually owned it. Mario sports games are... something else as well. Aside from baseball, which has hilariously bad controls, soccer/tennis are nice mix of skill and bs. The new mario tennis for the switch is pretty fun, but I think I'm biased for the original (and all the memories I have of competitions with friends at LAN parties). Games like Lethal League are in that vein, though. There is no other game like wario ware inc, that I've seen. 3. Computer performance hasn't been a huge issue (thus far). We've played cross-platform with linux, windows, and osx dolphin clients without a hitch. Our weakest link is a macbook pro from ~2015. 4. Pretty much everyone has a computer, whereas systems are fragmented. I don't own (and don't plan to own) an xbox or ps4, and not everyone has a switch. Or, a switch and the $60 nintendo game everyone wants to play. I still play modern games like tf2- oh wait, that came out in 2007. Like street fighter III:3s- oh, that released in 1999, three years after I was born. Dwarf fortress? Not released... but it doesn't look like a game from 2020. Chess..? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Jokes aside, there are multiplayer games for the PC like stardew valley (2016), animal crossing: new horizons (2020), terraria (2011), etc, that me and my friends have enjoyed. For pc games that have co-op, but only locally, I want to try parsecgaming [0] soon. [0]: https://parsecgaming.com/game-streaming-technology/ https://parsecgaming.com/game-streaming-technology/
  - vmception 7y ago
    Those are good points about local multiplayer co-op It seems two things are happening and I'm confused: You download the roms for the local multiplayer but everyone plays them remotely on different clients, and the dolphin software makes it act like its in person local co-op on the same device??? Or is this just a general point of a free time-tested fun game with good graphics that people can play on multiple platforms or a little bit of column A and column B with a third column that sometimes your friends come over and play on the same screen
    - andrewzah 7y ago
      > You download the roms for the local multiplayer but everyone plays them remotely on different clients, and the dolphin software makes it act like its in person local co-op on the same device??? Yeah, that's essentially what dolphin does. You need to make sure that the clients are all the same version. And that everyone has the same save file, I believe. Everyone connects via a code given by the traversal server, but I believe it's still peer to peer. So the players need to be relatively close geographically. For non-serious games I (east coast) can play as far as the midwest or so. But for good connections for competitive games, I have to stick to east coast. > with a third column that sometimes your friends come over and play on the same screen Before covid19 this is primarily how we would play mario party. It's definitely more fun in person, but still fun in zoom.
      - vmception 7y ago
        oooh that's really cool! haha so you have to pretend not to screen watch on a game where everybody is using different screens lmao yo dawg I heard you like multiplayer, so I put co-op in your co-op so you can screen watch while you ping watch

vmception 7y ago

> dolphin emu Is this because everyone is older millennial and Gen X finding nostalgia in the early 2000s? out of curiosity? I'm trying to see why thats an option, unless I'm missing something one of these is not like the other

andrewzah 7y ago
I'm 24, for reference. I grew up playing multiplayer games on the gamecube with my brother and friends from school. super smash bros melee, mario party 4-7, mario baseball/tennis/golf/soccer, wario ware inc, kirby air ride. etc. I actually remember trading my xbox classic for my uncle's gamecube because super smash bros looked so much fun. Aside from that, there are a few points as to why dolphin is nice: 1. The roms are "free". I ripped mine a long time ago but there are a lot of rom sites online. Not that I find it unethical since Nintendo would not be making money from used game sales anyway. This is probably the biggest draw because playing a regular indie game means our entire friend group needs to pay $10-$30. I wish all my friends had copies of Gang Beasts or Tabletop Simulator, but they don't. 2. Honestly, these games are still quite fun in 2020. Nothing really captures the mood of gamecube-era mario party games. The new one for the switch is kinda fun, but remains watered-down compared to the originals. Not that I would play these daily but they're fun as a variety mix. As far as other 4-player couch co-op games go, there aren't that many that are that fun that 3 of my friends own. Gang Beasts would be fun... if anyone actually owned it. Mario sports games are... something else as well. Aside from baseball, which has hilariously bad controls, soccer/tennis are nice mix of skill and bs. The new mario tennis for the switch is pretty fun, but I think I'm biased for the original (and all the memories I have of competitions with friends at LAN parties). Games like Lethal League are in that vein, though. There is no other game like wario ware inc, that I've seen. 3. Computer performance hasn't been a huge issue (thus far). We've played cross-platform with linux, windows, and osx dolphin clients without a hitch. Our weakest link is a macbook pro from ~2015. 4. Pretty much everyone has a computer, whereas systems are fragmented. I don't own (and don't plan to own) an xbox or ps4, and not everyone has a switch. Or, a switch and the $60 nintendo game everyone wants to play. I still play modern games like tf2- oh wait, that came out in 2007. Like street fighter III:3s- oh, that released in 1999, three years after I was born. Dwarf fortress? Not released... but it doesn't look like a game from 2020. Chess..? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Jokes aside, there are multiplayer games for the PC like stardew valley (2016), animal crossing: new horizons (2020), terraria (2011), etc, that me and my friends have enjoyed. For pc games that have co-op, but only locally, I want to try parsecgaming [0] soon. [0]: https://parsecgaming.com/game-streaming-technology/ https://parsecgaming.com/game-streaming-technology/
- vmception 7y ago
  Those are good points about local multiplayer co-op It seems two things are happening and I'm confused: You download the roms for the local multiplayer but everyone plays them remotely on different clients, and the dolphin software makes it act like its in person local co-op on the same device??? Or is this just a general point of a free time-tested fun game with good graphics that people can play on multiple platforms or a little bit of column A and column B with a third column that sometimes your friends come over and play on the same screen
  - andrewzah 7y ago
    > You download the roms for the local multiplayer but everyone plays them remotely on different clients, and the dolphin software makes it act like its in person local co-op on the same device??? Yeah, that's essentially what dolphin does. You need to make sure that the clients are all the same version. And that everyone has the same save file, I believe. Everyone connects via a code given by the traversal server, but I believe it's still peer to peer. So the players need to be relatively close geographically. For non-serious games I (east coast) can play as far as the midwest or so. But for good connections for competitive games, I have to stick to east coast. > with a third column that sometimes your friends come over and play on the same screen Before covid19 this is primarily how we would play mario party. It's definitely more fun in person, but still fun in zoom.
    - vmception 7y ago
      oooh that's really cool! haha so you have to pretend not to screen watch on a game where everybody is using different screens lmao yo dawg I heard you like multiplayer, so I put co-op in your co-op so you can screen watch while you ping watch