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I don’t know, kids being kids is just another word for getting in trouble. I certainly wouldn’t want kids roaming around my property if they are anything like I

I don’t know, kids being kids is just another word for getting in trouble. I certainly wouldn’t want kids roaming around my property if they are anything like I was at that age.

folkhack 6y ago
It's liability. Letting people onto your property is liability no matter what the context. Unsupervised kids roaming my property is a no-go and not my responsibility. I get that people want to have their ideals here, but there's a whole "risk to the property owner" side to this conversation that's not happening.
- t-writescode 6y ago
  Or just teach them to not go into other people's property? I didn't when I was their age. Families had fences to designate property.
  - folkhack 6y ago
    Agree. In my family we weren't allowed to trespass and had designated areas that were public where we would go off and adventure. Some involved a short bike ride. We weren't allowed to just go start playing in someone else's yard. Ninja edit: but in my anecdotal experience there are a ton of parents that don't do this and are shocked/insulted when you ask them politely to keep their kids off of your private property.
- Zak 6y ago
  It seems to me the idea of premise liability should probably be re-evaluated. When a place is not open to the public, and especially when someone is trespassing, the bar for liability should be quite high.
- folkhack 6y ago
  For those downvoting me I'd really like to hear a supporting argument as-to why I should let your kids roam my property? One that doesn't posit a world different than it is today - I don't want to hear how it SHOULD be... that's moot. I refuse to take liability and/or responsibility for people on my property that are there without my permission. If I find someone on my property who is there without permission I have a full lawful right to ask them to leave immediately as they are TRESPASSING. YOUR children are not MY responsibility.
t-writescode 6y ago
Kids being kids for me, when I was a kid was: * walking to the local convenience store * roaming the woods * playing paintball in the woods * building forts * playing manhunt * going on _long_ bike rides * paddling out on a canoe in our neighborhood's lake * staying up stupid late, playing video games with friends all in a single room together, also eating pizza We also didn't go _into_ other people's properties, in general. We went into this weird county-owned forest thing, or walked the streets on sidewalks in our suburbs (and ran across 6 lanes of traffic to get to the other side of the street for the store)

I don’t know, kids being kids is just another word for getting in trouble. I certainly wouldn’t want kids roaming around my property if they are anything like I was at that age.

folkhack 6y ago

It's liability. Letting people onto your property is liability no matter what the context. Unsupervised kids roaming my property is a no-go and not my responsibility. I get that people want to have their ideals here, but there's a whole "risk to the property owner" side to this conversation that's not happening.

t-writescode 6y ago
Or just teach them to not go into other people's property? I didn't when I was their age. Families had fences to designate property.
- folkhack 6y ago
  Agree. In my family we weren't allowed to trespass and had designated areas that were public where we would go off and adventure. Some involved a short bike ride. We weren't allowed to just go start playing in someone else's yard. Ninja edit: but in my anecdotal experience there are a ton of parents that don't do this and are shocked/insulted when you ask them politely to keep their kids off of your private property.
Zak 6y ago
It seems to me the idea of premise liability should probably be re-evaluated. When a place is not open to the public, and especially when someone is trespassing, the bar for liability should be quite high.
folkhack 6y ago
For those downvoting me I'd really like to hear a supporting argument as-to why I should let your kids roam my property? One that doesn't posit a world different than it is today - I don't want to hear how it SHOULD be... that's moot. I refuse to take liability and/or responsibility for people on my property that are there without my permission. If I find someone on my property who is there without permission I have a full lawful right to ask them to leave immediately as they are TRESPASSING. YOUR children are not MY responsibility.

t-writescode 6y ago

Kids being kids for me, when I was a kid was: * walking to the local convenience store * roaming the woods * playing paintball in the woods * building forts * playing manhunt * going on _long_ bike rides * paddling out on a canoe in our neighborhood's lake * staying up stupid late, playing video games with friends all in a single room together, also eating pizza We also didn't go _into_ other people's properties, in general. We went into this weird county-owned forest thing, or walked the streets on sidewalks in our suburbs (and ran across 6 lanes of traffic to get to the other side of the street for the store)