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I really hate these articles, they're click bait intended to sow discourse among fanbois and drive traffic to the site. People who have recently built systems

I really hate these articles, they're click bait intended to sow discourse among fanbois and drive traffic to the site. People who have recently built systems read them and either feel validation or regret. That just spawns comments from people either trying to justify their loser choice or flaunt their lucky choice of the winner. The loyalists crawl out of wood work to make comments like "I still prefer x because y". These articles draw broad conclusions and influence perception across the board, even if they mention performance tiers, that brand X is always superior to brand Y. I've been building systems for almost 30 years and in that time Intel has mostly been the performance champion AND has always screwed you over on price. Sometimes they lead by a lot, sometimes by very little or not at all but their platform is always more expensive. Both Intel and AMD introduce a brand (e.g. Pentium, Ahtlon) as their new flagship and then overtime erode the brand each year with lower spec products. Eventually they stop introducing higher spec products altogether and the brand sinks to the bottom of their product lineup as a new brand takes the top ranks (e.g. i9, Ryzen). Depending on when you get into building PCs you might have brand loyalty because maybe your first system was a Celeron you unlocked and ran at PIII speeds. Or maybe you picked up a first gen Althon that was the performance king for a few quarters, or the Athlon II when Intel was floundering with Netburst. Maybe you started out with Core and in your view Intel has always dominated AMD. Regardless your perceptions are skewed. Identify your workload and your budget, buy the best thing that meets your needs regardless of brand. Intel is historically more stable and less problematic. AMD usually offers significantly more performance per $ on the low end. Then again that all takes too much effort, just buy whatever makes you feel good about yourself on the internet according to these click bait articles.

neogodless 7y ago
Certainly if you think about it in terms of us vs. them, black and white, I don't see value. If you're making purchasing decisions, you should be looking mostly at your specific needs, and the big picture around what you need and how to get good value for your money. If you can afford it, vote your conscious as well, and for a healthy future. I've owned Cyrux, Pentium, Athlon, Core Duo, Phenom, Core i# and Ryzen. I'm partial to AMD as an underdog, and having a personality that always rooted for them. I'm unimpressed with Intel lately, but up until this year I still wouldn't buy an AMD laptop (though I've recommended a few for friends and family if the need and budget fit). This article does try to paint "one answer for all questions" and of course that's silly. For most consumers I think they'll be better off this year with choosing Ryzen. But the Ryzen laptop chips that are impressing everyone seem to be in short supply. So I can't cheer them on just yet. I don't purchase for datacenters or professional rendering so I wouldn't dare weigh in there. To sum up, focus on your needs, and individual options, not brand names!
partingshots 7y ago
You’re a bit out of date here. AMD has largely taken the performance crown thanks to their Zen CPU platform and move to using TSMC for their process as Intel has lagged behind, with major problems deriving from their inability to get 10nm working. If it helps to give you some perspective on how such a drastic change could occur, Intel’s 10nm process was originally meant to be ready for release in 2014!, and yet they still haven’t managed to scale out production after six years of debugging and failure. It’s a combination of AMD simultaneously doing extremely well and Intel severely stagnating that has allowed this to happen.
- cptskippy 7y ago
  > You’re a bit out of date here. I have no idea what you're talking about with your vague remark AND I think your attempt at pedantry has only helped to solidify the point I was making.
  - partingshots 7y ago
    Did you read the rest of my comment at all? I can appreciate disagreement, but that means taking the time to consider and look at what the other person has to say as well.
    - cptskippy 7y ago
      I did read your comment in it's entirety. It was unclear what specifically you were referring to because it was poorly written. You remarked "You’re a bit out of date here" without any clarification. Given that I spoke historically and in generalities, it's unclear what you were referring to. As far as I could tell you were dismissing everything I said AND then you went on to state technical facts surrounding recent events that in no way conflicted or invalidated anything I said. Now you're asserting that it was a failure on my part to read your comment in full and comprehend what you said, allowing you to dismiss anything I say in response. Basically you're trying to say I'm either misinformed or stupid, when in reality you're just not taking the time to write a coherent argument.

neogodless 7y ago

Certainly if you think about it in terms of us vs. them, black and white, I don't see value. If you're making purchasing decisions, you should be looking mostly at your specific needs, and the big picture around what you need and how to get good value for your money. If you can afford it, vote your conscious as well, and for a healthy future. I've owned Cyrux, Pentium, Athlon, Core Duo, Phenom, Core i# and Ryzen. I'm partial to AMD as an underdog, and having a personality that always rooted for them. I'm unimpressed with Intel lately, but up until this year I still wouldn't buy an AMD laptop (though I've recommended a few for friends and family if the need and budget fit). This article does try to paint "one answer for all questions" and of course that's silly. For most consumers I think they'll be better off this year with choosing Ryzen. But the Ryzen laptop chips that are impressing everyone seem to be in short supply. So I can't cheer them on just yet. I don't purchase for datacenters or professional rendering so I wouldn't dare weigh in there. To sum up, focus on your needs, and individual options, not brand names!

partingshots 7y ago

You’re a bit out of date here. AMD has largely taken the performance crown thanks to their Zen CPU platform and move to using TSMC for their process as Intel has lagged behind, with major problems deriving from their inability to get 10nm working. If it helps to give you some perspective on how such a drastic change could occur, Intel’s 10nm process was originally meant to be ready for release in 2014!, and yet they still haven’t managed to scale out production after six years of debugging and failure. It’s a combination of AMD simultaneously doing extremely well and Intel severely stagnating that has allowed this to happen.

cptskippy 7y ago
> You’re a bit out of date here. I have no idea what you're talking about with your vague remark AND I think your attempt at pedantry has only helped to solidify the point I was making.
- partingshots 7y ago
  Did you read the rest of my comment at all? I can appreciate disagreement, but that means taking the time to consider and look at what the other person has to say as well.
  - cptskippy 7y ago
    I did read your comment in it's entirety. It was unclear what specifically you were referring to because it was poorly written. You remarked "You’re a bit out of date here" without any clarification. Given that I spoke historically and in generalities, it's unclear what you were referring to. As far as I could tell you were dismissing everything I said AND then you went on to state technical facts surrounding recent events that in no way conflicted or invalidated anything I said. Now you're asserting that it was a failure on my part to read your comment in full and comprehend what you said, allowing you to dismiss anything I say in response. Basically you're trying to say I'm either misinformed or stupid, when in reality you're just not taking the time to write a coherent argument.