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> Since many are doubting what I went through It's not that people are doubting your experience, it's that the Intel boards aren't any better. Many of the Inte
by zrm 6y ago
> Since many are doubting what I went through
It's not that people are doubting your experience, it's that the Intel boards aren't any better. Many of the Intel boards also need a BIOS update to support later CPUs than they were originally released with, when they support them at all. DDR4 memory is finicky as heck. People end up having to RMA Intel boards all the time.
It's largely caused by the motherboard makers losing the ability to differentiate themselves. Half of what used to be on the motherboard is now integrated into modern CPUs and the other half is in the chipset which is now also made by the CPU manufacturer. Two motherboards with the same chipset are largely fungible so they have to compete on price and the quality suffers. It's a general problem and buying any consumer motherboard these days is kind of a crapshoot.
Here's a motherboard with 5 eggs and 50 reviews:
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813121180 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813121180
It's a Pentium 4 motherboard from ~15 years ago. See if you can find a current generation Intel motherboard on there with 5 eggs from half that many reviews. I don't see any.
- scurvy 6y agoI understand what you're saying about the P4 boards and that largely echos what I'm saying. The vendor chipsets are bad, AMD's are worse than Intel's, and there's not much a mobo vendor can do. Intel boards do need upgrades to work with newer CPU's. This is true. But their updates actually work when they say they add support. Go back to July 2019 and read all the forum posts and YouTube videos of everyone complaining about Ryzen 3000, "Well Gigabyte said this release works...but it doesn't." And on and on. It's a sorry state of affairs all around, but Intel is better than AMD. I write this on an AMD rig and after spending way too much money getting it going.
- zrm 6y agoIt's not that the chipsets are bad. The chipsets are fine. But that used to be how motherboards differentiated themselves. When the standard was two USB ports, one company would offer six. Not all boards had audio support and of the ones that did, some were better than others. All that is integrated now so every board with a given chipset is basically the same. Then they have to compete more aggressively on price, and the way they get the price down is by using cheaper heatsinks and spending less time developing firmware and things like that. The Intel boards have no immunity from that. The ratings there are just as bad. The older Intel boards were better but so were the older AMD boards.
- LargoLasskhyfv 6y agoErrm no. Onboard voltage regulation is very important and can be implemented very different.
- zrm 6y agoThat's what I'm saying. It's important but hard to use to differentiate. Everybody says their voltage regulation is high quality. Customers don't know which one is actually better and choose the one with the best price. Then manufacturers start cutting corners because having the best price sells more boards than having the best voltage regulation.