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> a pair of x470 Taichi's from Amazon last month So, you bough the same board twice and expected different results, and then are painting all motherboards with
by dralley 7y ago
> a pair of x470 Taichi's from Amazon last month
So, you bough the same board twice and expected different results, and then are painting all motherboards with that experience.
It's unsurprising that motherboards need microcode updates to work with newer CPUs. Intel CPUs also worked that way, except that 1) they only rarely support a socket for more than two generations anymore, and sometimes not even that, so you physically need a new motherboard to upgrade your CPU anyways, and 2) Intel CPUs haven't had any major architectural changes since 2016.
- scurvy 7y agoBought 1 board, returned twice. Third worked. I also bought an Asus which had similar non-POST'ing issues (slightly different). I tried an Athlon 220GE in each one, too. It's not just a Ryzen 3000 problem being too new and requiring an update. This platform just isn't solid and that's my point.
- artificial 7y agoWe’re these all purchased through Amazon? I usually always buy mobos physically from retailers.
- scurvy 7y ago3 boards via Amazon, 1 via NewEgg. The NewEgg one works. What's a physical retailer? San Francisco is the supposed capital of the tech world. It only has a single computer store (Central). It's not even open right now. I guess you could count a big box store like Best Buy, but they're not going to help out much right now other than exchanging like-kind items.
- artificial 7y agoI’m fortunate to be near a microcenter. I’ve had stuff arrive DOA being shipped and it’s such a downer when you’re excited to get the new system online only to discover an RMA.
- LargoLasskhyfv 7y agoSee? Maybe Amazon isn't the right platform to source stuff like that from who knows where, which has gathered dust for eons in some fulfilment center.
- scurvy 7y agoNice victim blaming. The problem is the chipsets, not the retailer.
- LargoLasskhyfv 7y agoGiven that the firmware contains workarounds for otherwise unstable operation, or none at all, who is at fault here? The OEM who did release an unstable product under pressure of time to market, the retailer for not having upgraded the product while it gathers dust somewhere, or the customer who orders dusty goods from whomever? I know the situation is less than satisfying, but it is how it is.
- scurvy 7y agoThree of them were just flat out dead. Old firmware would work with a 220GE that I had. It did work on a 4th. Three of four were straight broken. That's bad product.
- dralley 7y agoThe problem is not the chipsets, the problem is that they had a bunch of boards with old firmware sitting in inventory and never updated them when new hardware was released. As I've already said, it is totally normal for new CPUs to require motherboard firmware updates to function.