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I live in quebec. My kids go to a nice school. I live in a nice neighborhood. I get the nice metro to work. Or I cycle on the nice cycle network. I got my cov

I live in quebec. My kids go to a nice school. I live in a nice neighborhood. I get the nice metro to work. Or I cycle on the nice cycle network. I got my covid test, and result. I saw a really good doctor the same day. The same doctor rang me back 2 days later to check up on me at home. My kids would normally be in and out of a fantastic, modern library, or at the pool, or playing soccer in the great parks. Sadly the lockdown has temporarily stopped that, but it will be back. If I go outside I'm not avoiding the homeless in huge numbers. Rent and housing are not absurdly expensive, allowing affordability for families. Yes Quebec has areas to improve, but it's a great place. If being a great place for companies made for a good society then the UK and USA wouldn't be on their knees.

betaby 6y ago
...and my kinds go to overcrowded 'secondaire' (with very questionable teaching quality all across the QC, yes I seen articles praising how good is QC in math) ...and I often stuck on overcrowded orange line (last year was was the worst in delays) ...had to travel for the medical reasons abroad, wait times in QC are really bad if you are not dying right now ...I also don't specifically avoid homeless people, but sometimes it hard to take cash on Sainte-Catherine - people doing drugs near indoor ATMs in the winter because they are heated ...and my kids also like BAnQ library, yet ~about a year ago all soft chairs/sofas were replaced by plastic, because BAnQ is partially a homeless shelter But hey, enjoy your Quebec, Montreal specifically, as I see. ...and I will try to overcome my issues, in my Quebec.
- amiga_500 6y ago
  Montreal homeless issue is nothing like the USA situation. The orange line is a dream compared to the London tube.
  - betaby 6y ago
    That's a very Canadian reply - to compare with the worst examples, especially US ones. Not too many 3rd world countries can 'beat' US in homeless situation.
    - amiga_500 6y ago
      I've cited the USA and UK, two western, English speaking countries.
      - sunkenvicar 6y ago
        Your argument is not persuasive because those are different countries from Canada.
jarjoura 6y ago
> If I go outside I'm not avoiding the homeless in huge numbers. Rent and housing are not absurdly expensive, allowing affordability for families. In a recent trip to Montreal I never saw more homeless people out on the streets, and they were nasty and mean, demanding my attention. The shocking part was how cold it was outside and how the city allowed that to happen.
- amiga_500 6y ago
  This is anecdata. Homeless in the USA is far, far worse. NY has 1 in 125 homeless, 70k. Montreal has 3.1k. (1 in 1000). Yes Montreal can do better, but as per my original point, where the poster complained about the ease of registering a new business, making your province into a great place to register a business is not the path to a great society. https://www.bowery.org/homelessness/ https://www.bowery.org/homelessness/ https://www.homelesshub.ca/community-profile/montreal https://www.homelesshub.ca/community-profile/montreal Progress and Poverty, the top selling book behind The Bible in the 1890s has more information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_and_Poverty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_and_Poverty
thbr99 6y ago
I totally have the opposite experience in Québec. Everywhere and anything in Québec feels red taped and low of customer service. Maybe I have to speak French. Speaking in English and being non white gets a degraded service in Québec.
- cgpcraig 6y ago
  Depends where you are in Quebec though, downtown Montreal, TMR, West Island, gay village, plateau probably fine. East end, you're going to have some troubles there bisdy
  - thbr99 6y ago
    Yes. Nowadays I exclusively shop & eat around these areas. But by next year I will be saying Quebec goodbye for good. Its not just businesses here, the govt services and the police too. I am not going to fund them with my tax dollars.
- amiga_500 6y ago
  "good service" is a bad sign for society. Americans have "good service" because low income workers are one insane customer away from their lives tipping over the edge. Americans also complain about service in Europe, where workers are also not treating each customer interaction as a make or break situation.
  - thbr99 6y ago
    Good service as in when I went to a restaurant, the waiter said "You have to tip me $10 when you are done eating".

betaby 6y ago

...and my kinds go to overcrowded 'secondaire' (with very questionable teaching quality all across the QC, yes I seen articles praising how good is QC in math) ...and I often stuck on overcrowded orange line (last year was was the worst in delays) ...had to travel for the medical reasons abroad, wait times in QC are really bad if you are not dying right now ...I also don't specifically avoid homeless people, but sometimes it hard to take cash on Sainte-Catherine - people doing drugs near indoor ATMs in the winter because they are heated ...and my kids also like BAnQ library, yet ~about a year ago all soft chairs/sofas were replaced by plastic, because BAnQ is partially a homeless shelter But hey, enjoy your Quebec, Montreal specifically, as I see. ...and I will try to overcome my issues, in my Quebec.

amiga_500 6y ago
Montreal homeless issue is nothing like the USA situation. The orange line is a dream compared to the London tube.
- betaby 6y ago
  That's a very Canadian reply - to compare with the worst examples, especially US ones. Not too many 3rd world countries can 'beat' US in homeless situation.
  - amiga_500 6y ago
    I've cited the USA and UK, two western, English speaking countries.
    - sunkenvicar 6y ago
      Your argument is not persuasive because those are different countries from Canada.

jarjoura 6y ago

> If I go outside I'm not avoiding the homeless in huge numbers. Rent and housing are not absurdly expensive, allowing affordability for families. In a recent trip to Montreal I never saw more homeless people out on the streets, and they were nasty and mean, demanding my attention. The shocking part was how cold it was outside and how the city allowed that to happen.

amiga_500 6y ago
This is anecdata. Homeless in the USA is far, far worse. NY has 1 in 125 homeless, 70k. Montreal has 3.1k. (1 in 1000). Yes Montreal can do better, but as per my original point, where the poster complained about the ease of registering a new business, making your province into a great place to register a business is not the path to a great society. https://www.bowery.org/homelessness/ https://www.bowery.org/homelessness/ https://www.homelesshub.ca/community-profile/montreal https://www.homelesshub.ca/community-profile/montreal Progress and Poverty, the top selling book behind The Bible in the 1890s has more information: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_and_Poverty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progress_and_Poverty

thbr99 6y ago

I totally have the opposite experience in Québec. Everywhere and anything in Québec feels red taped and low of customer service. Maybe I have to speak French. Speaking in English and being non white gets a degraded service in Québec.

cgpcraig 6y ago
Depends where you are in Quebec though, downtown Montreal, TMR, West Island, gay village, plateau probably fine. East end, you're going to have some troubles there bisdy
- thbr99 6y ago
  Yes. Nowadays I exclusively shop & eat around these areas. But by next year I will be saying Quebec goodbye for good. Its not just businesses here, the govt services and the police too. I am not going to fund them with my tax dollars.
amiga_500 6y ago
"good service" is a bad sign for society. Americans have "good service" because low income workers are one insane customer away from their lives tipping over the edge. Americans also complain about service in Europe, where workers are also not treating each customer interaction as a make or break situation.
- thbr99 6y ago
  Good service as in when I went to a restaurant, the waiter said "You have to tip me $10 when you are done eating".