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This is so funny. Android is gaining it's share and everyone is trying to create iPhone killer. Noone is doing an Android killer:)

tesseract 16y ago
Apple? ;)
wmeredith 16y ago
That's because the iPhone is where the profit is at: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/09/21/pie-chart-apples-outrageous-share-of-the-mobile-industrys-profits/ http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/09/21/pie-chart-apples-outr... That link basically says that Jan-Jun 2010 Apple sold just under 3% of all smart phones in the world, but they took in 39% of all profit made in that sector in the same time period. It's really astounding what they've been able to do this relatively established market in just 3 or 4 years. No wonder everyone else was so blindsided. Apple isn't after market share or any metric in particular, they never have been. They're after making great products they want to use.
- ZeroGravitas 16y ago
  I mentioned this above in relation to a different article about the same numbers, but that's not smartphone share, it's phone share. Since the phone market is mostly cheap, commodity items it shouldn't be a surprise that smartphone vendors have bigger profits than their phone share would indicate. Mostly people are impressed by it, because they think it's smartphone share. Perhaps they're mislead because some of Apple's competitors compete in both markets?
YooLi 16y ago
It's because all Android has done is blurred the line between smart phone and feature phone. It's Android phones now that are the free and BOGO phones and that's exactly what Google wants--a base out there that they cannot be excluded from for their primary business, advertising. ex.: http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/110303_android_liquidation.jpg?w=590&h=471 http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/110303_andro...
- whatusername 16y ago
  Dear US writers: $0 Upfront is not a "free" phone. $50 Upfront is not a "Cheap" phone. I can get a "Free" iPhone 4 32GB on any carrier I like in Australia. // This doesn't mean that Android isn't undercutting apple on price -- but that $0 / $50 / $200 upfront are not meaningful in any way
  - YooLi 16y ago
    Dear non-US writers: This article is specifically about US smartphones. "Google Android Captures #1 Position in U.S. Smartphone Market"
    - ugh 16y ago
      0$ phones are also not magically “free” in the US. You pay it with your monthly bills down the line. The subsidized price is never a meaningful metric for comparison, it is in itself not a reasonable metric for comparisons. I have always been puzzled by this attitude which seems to be rampant with Americans. Don’t you notice something’s up when somebody offers you something for “free”?
      - detst 16y ago
        > 0$ phones are also not magically “free” in the US. Yes, they are -- the only benefit will be contract/no-contract. Pay full price and come back two years later and tell me it's not free. > The subsidized price is never a meaningful metric for comparison It's not subsidized when you pay the same monthly rate regardless (T-Mobile being the exception) > I have always been puzzled by this attitude which seems to be rampant with Americans It's not an attitude; it's an acceptance of reality. I'd like a discount with Verizon if I bring my own phone but I'm not counting on it anytime soon. Not sure what's puzzling about that.
        ugh 16y ago
        Wow. You pay the same price even if you bring your own phone?! That’s just crazy. How is that even possible? You should get pitchforks! The phones are obviously still subsidized, you just don’t get a phone for free. It’s just that they presumably also overcharge you if you bring your own phone. Wow! That wouldn’t fly in Europe.
megablast 16y ago
To create an android phone, means writing an OS, giving it away, and trying to get hardware developers, app developers, and advertisers on board. That is not going to be easy, Microsoft might have a chance, if they started to give away their OS, but probably not.
- artsrc 16y ago
  I think Intel would be the company to give it a shot. They were part of thing Nokia walked away from. Android uses Linux, you don't have to write an OS from completely from scratch.

tesseract 16y ago

Apple? ;)

wmeredith 16y ago

That's because the iPhone is where the profit is at: http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/09/21/pie-chart-apples-outrageous-share-of-the-mobile-industrys-profits/ http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/09/21/pie-chart-apples-outr... That link basically says that Jan-Jun 2010 Apple sold just under 3% of all smart phones in the world, but they took in 39% of all profit made in that sector in the same time period. It's really astounding what they've been able to do this relatively established market in just 3 or 4 years. No wonder everyone else was so blindsided. Apple isn't after market share or any metric in particular, they never have been. They're after making great products they want to use.

ZeroGravitas 16y ago
I mentioned this above in relation to a different article about the same numbers, but that's not smartphone share, it's phone share. Since the phone market is mostly cheap, commodity items it shouldn't be a surprise that smartphone vendors have bigger profits than their phone share would indicate. Mostly people are impressed by it, because they think it's smartphone share. Perhaps they're mislead because some of Apple's competitors compete in both markets?

YooLi 16y ago

It's because all Android has done is blurred the line between smart phone and feature phone. It's Android phones now that are the free and BOGO phones and that's exactly what Google wants--a base out there that they cannot be excluded from for their primary business, advertising. ex.: http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/110303_android_liquidation.jpg?w=590&h=471 http://macdailynews.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/110303_andro...

whatusername 16y ago
Dear US writers: $0 Upfront is not a "free" phone. $50 Upfront is not a "Cheap" phone. I can get a "Free" iPhone 4 32GB on any carrier I like in Australia. // This doesn't mean that Android isn't undercutting apple on price -- but that $0 / $50 / $200 upfront are not meaningful in any way
- YooLi 16y ago
  Dear non-US writers: This article is specifically about US smartphones. "Google Android Captures #1 Position in U.S. Smartphone Market"
  - ugh 16y ago
    0$ phones are also not magically “free” in the US. You pay it with your monthly bills down the line. The subsidized price is never a meaningful metric for comparison, it is in itself not a reasonable metric for comparisons. I have always been puzzled by this attitude which seems to be rampant with Americans. Don’t you notice something’s up when somebody offers you something for “free”?
    - detst 16y ago
      > 0$ phones are also not magically “free” in the US. Yes, they are -- the only benefit will be contract/no-contract. Pay full price and come back two years later and tell me it's not free. > The subsidized price is never a meaningful metric for comparison It's not subsidized when you pay the same monthly rate regardless (T-Mobile being the exception) > I have always been puzzled by this attitude which seems to be rampant with Americans It's not an attitude; it's an acceptance of reality. I'd like a discount with Verizon if I bring my own phone but I'm not counting on it anytime soon. Not sure what's puzzling about that.
      - ugh 16y ago
        Wow. You pay the same price even if you bring your own phone?! That’s just crazy. How is that even possible? You should get pitchforks! The phones are obviously still subsidized, you just don’t get a phone for free. It’s just that they presumably also overcharge you if you bring your own phone. Wow! That wouldn’t fly in Europe.

megablast 16y ago

To create an android phone, means writing an OS, giving it away, and trying to get hardware developers, app developers, and advertisers on board. That is not going to be easy, Microsoft might have a chance, if they started to give away their OS, but probably not.

artsrc 16y ago
I think Intel would be the company to give it a shot. They were part of thing Nokia walked away from. Android uses Linux, you don't have to write an OS from completely from scratch.