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Has everybody here forgotten that there was a serious discussion of using UV light on humans, as well as how to reduce the viral load internally on this very si

Has everybody here forgotten that there was a serious discussion of using UV light on humans, as well as how to reduce the viral load internally on this very site?

celticninja 7y ago
fine, but no one suggested injecting bleach to a national audience did they.
- jtbayly 7y ago
  No, they didn't. Literally, nobody.
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specialist 7y ago
Medical advice should come from medical professionals. UVB phototherapy saved my life. Involving a ridiculous amount of planning, effort, oversight, followup. No one is more pro UV than me. (eg I asked about using non visible light as a diagnostic tool when people started playing around with UV photography.) When there are novel UV therapies, I want to hear about it from my doctors, not the POTUS. Especially at the expense of concrete things needing to be done ASAP, like ramping up testing and contact tracing.
- jtbayly 7y ago
  A press conference does not come at the expense of doing concrete things. It has a purpose. One of those purposes is to keep people's spirits up with hopeful news about things that are being tried, to show that all angles are being pursued, etc. You can argue all you want that you know better how to do a press conference as a sitting president of the USA, but it's absurd to fault him for giving medical advice. He didn't. You might as well condemn all newspapers, websites, or newscasters, and commenters the moment they start talking about potential new areas of research or treatment. The reason the media got all pissy about it is because the President started doing what they consider to be their own proprietary job that nobody else can do: spreading rumors (aka "news").
  - specialist 7y ago
    Is there any reason to not pass the mic to doctors? "Hi all. Thanks for coming. We've been kicking around some ideas. You all know Dr. Fauci. I've asked him to share what we now know, what we're thinking. He'll also answer all your questions. Please give him your full attention."
    - jtbayly 7y ago
      Well, there are reasons, but I can't think of good ones. But you do realize that's quite a different criticism, right? I'm just saying that the hypocritical hyperventilating about this is absurd.
pas 7y ago
Do you mean the 222nm (far UVC) thing? (Which seems safe.) Or am I missing something? Or something dumb that Trump said?
RealityVoid 7y ago
Reflecting on that thread, this quote springs to mind “A fool can throw a stone in a pond that 100 wise men can not get out” Not sure we even ought to try.
craftinator 7y ago
UV light that has a high enough frequency to kill a virus is also cancer causing. Most sci-fi authors I read come up with more plausible tech solutions than the Trumpster Fire, and their job is literally to make up lies!

Has everybody here forgotten that there was a serious discussion of using UV light on humans, as well as how to reduce the viral load internally on this very site?

celticninja 7y ago

fine, but no one suggested injecting bleach to a national audience did they.

jtbayly 7y ago
No, they didn't. Literally, nobody.
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specialist 7y ago

Medical advice should come from medical professionals. UVB phototherapy saved my life. Involving a ridiculous amount of planning, effort, oversight, followup. No one is more pro UV than me. (eg I asked about using non visible light as a diagnostic tool when people started playing around with UV photography.) When there are novel UV therapies, I want to hear about it from my doctors, not the POTUS. Especially at the expense of concrete things needing to be done ASAP, like ramping up testing and contact tracing.

jtbayly 7y ago
A press conference does not come at the expense of doing concrete things. It has a purpose. One of those purposes is to keep people's spirits up with hopeful news about things that are being tried, to show that all angles are being pursued, etc. You can argue all you want that you know better how to do a press conference as a sitting president of the USA, but it's absurd to fault him for giving medical advice. He didn't. You might as well condemn all newspapers, websites, or newscasters, and commenters the moment they start talking about potential new areas of research or treatment. The reason the media got all pissy about it is because the President started doing what they consider to be their own proprietary job that nobody else can do: spreading rumors (aka "news").
- specialist 7y ago
  Is there any reason to not pass the mic to doctors? "Hi all. Thanks for coming. We've been kicking around some ideas. You all know Dr. Fauci. I've asked him to share what we now know, what we're thinking. He'll also answer all your questions. Please give him your full attention."
  - jtbayly 7y ago
    Well, there are reasons, but I can't think of good ones. But you do realize that's quite a different criticism, right? I'm just saying that the hypocritical hyperventilating about this is absurd.

pas 7y ago

Do you mean the 222nm (far UVC) thing? (Which seems safe.) Or am I missing something? Or something dumb that Trump said?

RealityVoid 7y ago

Reflecting on that thread, this quote springs to mind “A fool can throw a stone in a pond that 100 wise men can not get out” Not sure we even ought to try.

craftinator 7y ago

UV light that has a high enough frequency to kill a virus is also cancer causing. Most sci-fi authors I read come up with more plausible tech solutions than the Trumpster Fire, and their job is literally to make up lies!