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After decades of increasingly rebellious movements, it seems like the last few have been rebellion for the sake of rebellion - progress for the sake of progress

After decades of increasingly rebellious movements, it seems like the last few have been rebellion for the sake of rebellion - progress for the sake of progress. Perhaps this is the pendulum swinging back.

sdegutis 6y ago
Wasn't James Dean the "Rebel Without a Cause" in 1955?
searchableguy 6y ago
I think adults are just too oppressive these days. Expecting their kids to do 10x they did at that age. - concerned teenager
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- johnchristopher 6y ago
  Indeed, a lot of people here seem to be gifted with 6 years old writing their own lisp compiler in minecraft ("and they have fun !"). ^^
  - cknoxrun 6y ago
    I believe it is more than just a shift in parenting. I am a parent of a 7 year old. The expectations I place on him are to work hard when faced with a task, and don't give up too easily. In terms of activities, the only requirements are swimming (as a life skill, not as a competition), and some kind of musical exposure (something I feel I lacked as a child). He is also required to keep screen time to a reasonable level. Otherwise, he is free to play when he wants in an unstructured way, be as creative as he wants building things at his own volition, and is super independent. However, I am still completely floored at his knowledge of the world compared to my wife and I at his age. I recall in grade 1 being just generally dazed and confused. My son and his peers just know so much more about the world due to technology that it is honestly mind-boggling. It is like speaking with little adults sometimes. Obviously the emotional maturity is still that of a 7 year old (actually I would say lower for my son), but his grasp on reality is extremely mature, and I don't think he is the exception. I believe technology has changed our children completely. They are smarter than ever before, and yearn for more constantly (as we do, addicted to information on our devices). My son is constantly pressuring me to "teach him to code" and I have not said a word about it, or given in to that request yet as I think he needs more time to just play and explore the natural world. I can only conclude that things have changed drastically for children, and it is hard to keep up. There are obviously go-getter parents out there, wanting their kids to be superstars, but I don't know if that is the general trend.
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mdiesel 6y ago
From looking at history, it seems to me that every generation brings about social change, and it starts off being criticised by the previous generation as rebellion without cause, or that its gone too far. So far looking back we've yet to go too far. That's not to say that some friction isn't required for stability.
lotsofpulp 6y ago
I would say that it’s more due to the data showing that if you’re not in the top quintile of income/wealth (maybe even top decile), then you’re going to fall further and further behind in the income/wealth gap, and probably also handicapping your descendants chances of being in the portion of society who has increasing wealth/income/security. So the pressure is there because the pressure is actually there in real life. Who can afford to take chances when a medical bill can ruin your family’s chances at having a stable future?

sdegutis 6y ago

Wasn't James Dean the "Rebel Without a Cause" in 1955?

searchableguy 6y ago

I think adults are just too oppressive these days. Expecting their kids to do 10x they did at that age. - concerned teenager

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johnchristopher 6y ago
Indeed, a lot of people here seem to be gifted with 6 years old writing their own lisp compiler in minecraft ("and they have fun !"). ^^
- cknoxrun 6y ago
  I believe it is more than just a shift in parenting. I am a parent of a 7 year old. The expectations I place on him are to work hard when faced with a task, and don't give up too easily. In terms of activities, the only requirements are swimming (as a life skill, not as a competition), and some kind of musical exposure (something I feel I lacked as a child). He is also required to keep screen time to a reasonable level. Otherwise, he is free to play when he wants in an unstructured way, be as creative as he wants building things at his own volition, and is super independent. However, I am still completely floored at his knowledge of the world compared to my wife and I at his age. I recall in grade 1 being just generally dazed and confused. My son and his peers just know so much more about the world due to technology that it is honestly mind-boggling. It is like speaking with little adults sometimes. Obviously the emotional maturity is still that of a 7 year old (actually I would say lower for my son), but his grasp on reality is extremely mature, and I don't think he is the exception. I believe technology has changed our children completely. They are smarter than ever before, and yearn for more constantly (as we do, addicted to information on our devices). My son is constantly pressuring me to "teach him to code" and I have not said a word about it, or given in to that request yet as I think he needs more time to just play and explore the natural world. I can only conclude that things have changed drastically for children, and it is hard to keep up. There are obviously go-getter parents out there, wanting their kids to be superstars, but I don't know if that is the general trend.
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mdiesel 6y ago

From looking at history, it seems to me that every generation brings about social change, and it starts off being criticised by the previous generation as rebellion without cause, or that its gone too far. So far looking back we've yet to go too far. That's not to say that some friction isn't required for stability.

lotsofpulp 6y ago

I would say that it’s more due to the data showing that if you’re not in the top quintile of income/wealth (maybe even top decile), then you’re going to fall further and further behind in the income/wealth gap, and probably also handicapping your descendants chances of being in the portion of society who has increasing wealth/income/security. So the pressure is there because the pressure is actually there in real life. Who can afford to take chances when a medical bill can ruin your family’s chances at having a stable future?